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What to do with Aboriginal Communities?

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"I suppose expecting them to work for a living is racist?"

Actually, authority's common expectation is rather more specific than just "to work for a living", it is "to work for the money that the white-man prints".

Probably not racist, assuming they expect the same from everyone else, but patronizing and evil just the same.

It is none of anyone else's business whether another chooses to live or to die. For someone who grew up free, it is probably more dignified to starve than to slave for the white-man's tokens.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 6:12:14 PM
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AlGore- to answer your question, no and no from me.
I don't believe any socialists groups will get much out of sovereign Aboriginal land to turn them to their agenda, but to be honest even if they did I wouldn't really feel bothered by it.

Simply put I feel they DO deserve this right on land granted native title as long as on a case-by-case basis (as the circumstances of the areas are different) the rights of any not among the title holders are secured appropriately (that is, if it were granted in a city district, there would be much less concession to sovereignty than a whole town predominantly populated by the title holders.
Posted by King Hazza, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 10:08:43 PM
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benq and Custard, in the first paragraph of this thread the assertion was posed that "the primary problem (not a symptom) on the majority of Aboriginal Communities, is the absolute disbelief in the 'Rule of Law'". I was merely pointing out that "the absolute disbelief in the 'Rule of Law'" is also the primary problem on all other Australian communities.

The rule of law in Australia issues from a Constitution which by original intent provides for men's legislatures only, a men's jurisdiction at law only, administered in men's corporate committees only, all to which women attend under male supervision. No further proof of this assertion is required than the realisation that a majority of the federal parliament can rescind the law granting women franchise in 1902 with the effect of removing all women members and prohibiting all Australian women a vote. The same cannot be said of men. Australia's Constitution in its current form is the product of patriarchy. It is a blatantly sexist implement of governance and therefore so is Australia's rule of law.

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Posted by whistler, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:06:24 AM
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To Australia's first peoples with a universal tradition of law passed down through millennia of equal rights between women and men Australia's rule of law is a nonsense, thus the social problems this thread is attempting to resolve. There is no pride, joy or dignity living under a rule of law which is a nonsense. To the communities which comprise the rest of Australia in which women have become the equals of men over the past half century or so Australia's rule of law is also a nonsense, thus their impotence in resolving the social problems of the first peoples. There is no pride, joy or dignity living with first peoples disadvantage. Neither of these attitudes are particularly overt. First peoples don't generally go around saying the rule of law is a nonsense because of its inconsistency with tradition but some do, cursing authorities for their intervention. Most other Australians don't go around saying the rule of law is a nonsense with regard to the inequality of women but some do, cursing men for their paternalistic attitudes. But these attitudes remain at essence of all that Australians do. There is nothing more profound than relations between women and men.

The solution is to establish a rule of law which both first peoples and all other Australians will uphold with pride, joy and dignity, to reconcile the rule of law. The way to do this is with a Constitution which achieves equal rights between women and men through governance conducted by agreement between women's and men's legislatures, courts and corporate committees. Cure the disease and the wounds will heal themselves. OK, so I didn't get past the first paragraph of the thread before I was moved to speak, but is was a spot on paragraph which cut straight to the point.

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Posted by whistler, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:06:49 AM
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Yuyutsu

Presumably taking money for nothing is also beneath your dignity.
Posted by benk, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:57:16 AM
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Whistler,
How does one respect a law that doesn't respect it's own ? I favour the indigenous law any day to the academic connivance gobbledeegook.
As I stated before; Keep academia away from indigenous communities & you'll instantly see a rebuilding of those communities.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:00:45 AM
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