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What to do with Aboriginal Communities?

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Dear Custard,

A clarification:

Chardy drinkers are usually ultra-conservatives,
of the extreme right. They can afford it!

What to do with Aboriginal Communities?

The following website may help answer that question:

http://www.antar.org.au/abetterway

A brief summary:

1) Aboriginal solutions to Aoboriginal problems
yields the best results.
2) Support them rather than patronise them.
3) Need to listen and support local institutions
and solutions rather than impose solutions across
the board.
4) Need to work in real partnership with the
Aboriginal Communities.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 7:30:30 PM
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Too far from the Chardy for them,
Yep, Custard,
No nice new houses for family & friends to have a free holiday. No fishing to exploit etc. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
I wonder if those corrupt leaders & CEO's in the communities will have to pay Super tax for mining green Gold ($).
Posted by individual, Sunday, 6 June 2010 7:38:44 PM
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Perhaps, Custard we do have the wrong approach.Instead of destroying the Aboriginal culture with the bribery and corruption of handouts and nepotism,we could take the Israeli angle of active genocide instead of passive genocide.It is far cheaper and quicker than stealing a person's purpose in life.Perhaps more humane,don't you think?
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 6 June 2010 7:51:01 PM
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Custard: << The lack of respect for the State is the cause, not the outcome of our approach to Aboriginal Communities. Unless we give the majority of inhabitants thereof some reason to respect and/or trust the State, we cannot expect anything to change. >>

While I disagree vehemently with Custard on other issues, I think that this is a very perspicacious comment.

Given the experience that most Indigenous people have with the State via its various agencies, why on earth would they want to identify with it?

[Weird - I just inadvertently posted the above comment on the wrong thread, but the OLO software has been preventing me from correcting the error... if this works, I'll have a fair idea why]
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 6 June 2010 8:30:09 PM
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OK, how many of the people commenting here, I include you CJ (I saw your post on the other topic) have ACTUAL experience living, working or dealing with Aboriginal People in isolated communities?

I'll tell you right now, supposed "Aboriginal Solutions" don't work, one mob gets the money, the rest get the sh*&ts...

The only Government Agency I have EVER seen work well with Aboriginal Communities, and which is generally trusted, is the Army/Defense Force.

As CJ Morgan stated (mistakenly) elsewhere, the interaction between Aboriginal People and the State is generally universally bad, so why would they want to identify with it... Good call, but how to get past that? Maybe we could use the Army Reserve, maybe various units that are on rotation, I don't know. But it has to change.

We have to move past the corruption, nepotism and favoritism that pervades all aspects of the reality of living in/on/or near Aboriginal Communities.

We have to find a single government agency that is trusted and can teach real skills. Unfortunately (because I am apparently a military nutter) I have to say the Army is it. They are the only ones I have ever seen get treated as 'normal' people.

If anyone else has suggestions, throw them out... Personal Jibes, keep to yourself, I don't need it

PS how in phucks (cool, gets past the censor) name is Israel in here? AIPD I swear to god! WTF?
Posted by Custard, Sunday, 6 June 2010 8:35:51 PM
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Hi Custard - I have personal firsthand experience in interacting with Aboriginal communities, and also as a consultant to the ADF.

Military intervention is not the answer, because the problems are far deeper than the military is equipped to deal with.

Indeed, anybody who's studied the history of race relations in Australia would probably tell you that current problems began with Indigenous people being treated as the enemy by armed representatives of the State.

Things have improved a bit since then, but we still have a long way to go.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:04:43 PM
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