Phio's question is: Are they capable of fulfilling a male parental role?

Like many, you assume all male gays do not have stereotypical male tendencies that you think are relevant for parenting. They play footy, dink beer, you name it.

But on the other hand I know many heterosexual blokey men who should never have become fathers. And I'm sure you could say the same for gay men too.

I don't think for a minute that being a good father is dependent on one's sexuality. The same can be said of Lesbian mothers.

There are two topics that always bring out the same bunch of bigoted fools – homosexuality and atheism, because both are condemned, without reason, by religion.
It has been proven by reputable science that the major cause of homosexuality is not genetic, but the absorption of testosterone in the womb. All children are born female. Those with an XY combination of chromosomes have receptors that trigger testosterone doses at specific times during gestation. If some of these don’t coincide, then the transformation from male to female is incomplete. For example, if the dose is not absorbed properly when visual signals of sexual attraction are developing, then the foetus will remain in the default state [female] for that, and the otherwise normal male will find males sexually attractive. The figure of ten percent is about right, and occurs in all higher animals.There is a theory that after giving birth to a son, a form of allergic reaction occurs in the mother with the second, causing the testosterone production to be faulty.
A completely formed male will be rational, ready to learn new things and apply them, whereas a normal female will be cautious about too readily accepting new stuff as she requires stability. Boaz, Col Rouge and all those other bigoted oppressors of difference, are thus slightly more female than male, in that they retain the female desire to resist new information. Let’s persecute them!

jbgirp,
The first part of your post sounds quite reasonable- until...

"A completely formed male will be rational, ready to learn new things and apply them, whereas a normal female will be cautious about too readily accepting new stuff as she requires stability.
......retain the female desire to resist new information."

As a female, I desire to resist this information ;+)

Do you have a link to some scientific evidence of this?

I have never found that females resist or have the desire to resist new information more than men do.
However, I am ready to learn new things, but I don't find it very rational to accept assumptions without any evidence or reason behind them.

Phew- I feel better now :)

ronnie peters, Friday, 12,

Said, "He found that the nucleus of the hypothalmus that triggers male-typical sexual behaviour was much smaller in gay men and was much like that in women's brains. He also found that the corpus callosum differs (bigger in gays) between gay and straight men. It is also larger in artistic and people who inclined to think in degrees and are less either/or thinkers."

Philo asks in response:

My question is: Do gay men produce sperm or ovum? Are they capable of fulfilling a male parental role?

My answers.

Question one.
Yes. Gay men produce sperm. The brain, among other things, produces ideas and attitudes. The reproductive organs produce semen and ovum. Now you can relax next time you get a stiff neck. Gay men can also produce love, kindness and have often been blessed with many desireable human qualities.

Question two: I think Yes. Parenting is more about using your brain to prepare children for the world than your sexuality. Actually given the amount of homophobia around I'd say a gay couple would more likely have a very well adjusted adult in relation to their attitude to people of difference than hetrosexual "Christian "parents who teach their children nonsense about the evilness of homosexuality.

You need to read your Bible more closely Philo.

Celivia,

you write [As a female, I desire to resist this information.] And so you should. It was pretentious guff with as much intellectual foundation as religious inspired homophobia. No, there's no scientific research on this... because rational people realise that human variation is virtually limitless and any such stereotype would be both offensive and silly. My experience with attitudes to my homosexuality has been the opposite of what I wrote. More women have been interested in discussing and thinking about it, and less condemnatory, than men.
You write. [I don't find it very rational to accept assumptions without any evidence or reason behind them.]

Neither do I, and I feel better now knowing there is one more rational and sensible woman on the planet.
Cheers. Ybgirp

Ybgirp,
Thanks for replying; you're wonderful, and you're quite right- I do see the funny side of what you posted!

I must confess, that after I wrote what I wrote, I realised that I may have misunderstood and that your intention was not to insult women but to poke a bit of fun out of the homophobes in this thread. And don't they need it!

I'm glad that you responded as I was trying to figure out how to bring this up in a next post.

We all know about the ones who protest the hardest, don't we? ;+)

I hope our paths will cross again; it's been delightful to discover that there's another reasonable member on the OLO forum.

To everyone:
I do really think that the theory about homosexuality and evolution Snout presented to us is an interesting topic to discuss; and it's a shame that homophobes had to turn this thread into a moral discussion once again.

I figure that most homophobes in this discussion are those Christians who oppose homosexuality AND evolution so chances of a reasonable discussion on this are one in a zillion.

I realise that I don't have added anything of much substance myself, except saying that I'm interested in finding out if there has been any research to show homosexuality rates of first-born boys and their male siblings, and I have a special interest in Chinese findings as homosexuals there will all be only children.

To compare those two outcomes would reveal something to either support or dismiss the theory.

Snout,
if you still read this, do you know if any more research is being done on this or if there are plans for more research?

Perhaps interested people can still try to keep this discussion on topic while juggling the homophobes.
We, women and homosexuals are very good at multitasking, after all ;+)