CJ Morgan has made an early bid for "Inconsequential Poster 2007"

My money is on him. He has done very well in the past.

Thanx guys.

Could some of us explore the possible ways of responding to such things ?
I initiated a protest, wrote to 160 churches and surf clubs on this issue, and received a request for more info from a major media columnist.

I was suggesting that people attend this seminar in small self contained groups of 10, with a team leader, where they know exactly why they are there, and would be self governing and self managing, with their own signs etc. I did a web site about it, and linked that to other web sites with more info.

In order to avoid any further Cronulla's and the mentality which prevailed there, and its vulnerability to hijacking, small groups (but many of them) is the approach to take in regard to making our voices heard.

This way, if there is a moron element, it would not effect large numbers.

I have not the slightest idea of how successful this would have been (if the event actually went ahead, having now had their permit cancelled) but I DO believe with all my heart that we need to consider ways of countering such radical ideology growing like a cancer among us.
Such a demo would be a 'no' and a 'yes' type. No to Sharia Law (from non Christians) and 'yes' to true freedom in Christ from Christians.

The thing I find most difficult, is women from among our side of things (non Muslim) coming into this insidious prison of their own fee will. The pathway seems to be:

1/ Disillusionment with nominal Christianity (can't understand 'the trinity')+ frustration with social attitudes.
2/ A longing for some deeper truth about life and meaning.

This leads them to 'persue studies about Islam' where they inevitably only are given the 'sugar coated' version, such as with Scientology
next thing you know they are in a Burqah telling us how free they are.

If any female reads this, please refer to this, to see what Hizb regards as 'freedom' in marraige.
http://www.risala.org/books/11.Systems-Social-new.pdf

-Obedience andTaking permission from her husband.
-Children are HIS Children
-Wealth is HIS_wealth

Update on Hizb ut-Tahrir Sydney Khilafah conference...
These are the additional media articles about the planned Hizb ut-Tahrir conference on 27 January 2007.
The group booked the Bankstown Town Hall under a pseudonym!

This posting includes all the media articles following Barney Zwartz's initial article yesterday...

But first - what are some Muslims saying about the conference?
Check out Forum Muslim Village... they are discussing the conference...
See http://forums.muslimvillage.net/

Then topics like 'Muslims in the News...
at http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php?showforum=52
and then click on the article 'Extremist Muslims call to arms" at http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php?showtopic=30277

One contributor, 'Othman' who says he is a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir said earlier (Dec 2006) on a thread,
"The Khilafah is fard. If the Muslims don't implement a fard, they are not implementing Islam in its entirety. Its that simple. Nothing to do with safety."
On this page is a lengthy discussion about the meaning of the Khilafah!
See http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php?showtopic=13165&st=480&p=469896&#entry469896

Fard? fard (also farida) is an Islamic Arabic term denoting – “a religious duty”

Muslim Village also post the following interesting document:

“The Methodology of Hizb ut-Tahir for Change”

http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=6675


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Posted from * sourse by Philo

I trust that the Hizb UT Tahrir conference has been cancelled. All the Islamic countries are so backward and introverted that they are unable to handle any of their problems. Their social problems are legendary with their treatment of women and homosexuals falling rather short of anything acceptable in western countries. Any religion that forces its women to live under black sheets and encourages its members to recite the Koran in Arabic has no place in any modern society. They try and convert Christians to their faith while threatening death to a Moslem who converts to Christianity. I think in some Islamic circles you can get your ticket to the so-called “paradise” by knocking off a backslider.

To Philo and Sille

at this stage it has not been 'cancelled' the only thing which has happened is the venue is cancelled.
Lets keep in mind, they have 'international speakers' coming, (wonder who is funding that ?) so.. a strong likelihood is that they will
a) Successfully challenge the decision or..
b) Re-Locate.

I invite all of you to look here http://www.caliphateprotest.wikispaces.com
which I compiled a day or 2 ago and then wrote to about 160 churches and surf lifesaving clubs calling on them to form small groups of 10 and come along and either hold up a secular protest sign or a Christian one.
I have the support of one major media identity from a national paper thus far.
Have also written to others.

Philo..why not start gathering some people.. up to 10 or in groups of 10 (legal reasons for that number- 11+ can be 'riot'if violence occurs) and come up with a sign or 2 ? :) "Jesus Lives" or something.
I want to form a standby team of about that size anyway for future things.

The key to success is 'small, self contained, self governed tightly disciplined groups' rather than "unruly alchohol fueled mobs"

By all means check this out too http://www.truetruth.wikispaces.com
(The path to violent Jihad)

Spendocrat;
Your assumption that they are "Just like us" is incorrect.
They do not think like us at all.

I asked that indirect relative of mine, who was imprisoned for eight
years as a hostage by Saddam why they would load a van with explosives
call over poor workers looking for work and then blow them all up.

His answer; "They don't think like us at all. To them that is a normal
thing to do. There is no right and wrong as we know it."
Now he spent eight years in Iraq in prison and spent his time teaching
English and about the outside world, so he knows what he is talking about.

I havn't read much about Islam and I don't intend to as I think there
are more important things to do but I have seen enough to realise that
there is a problem, a very significant problem.

AS they do not think like us there is not much room for compromise as
compromise needs a meeting of minds and the two minds operate with
different operating systems. eg Linux and Microsoft Windows.