I see no reason to engage any further in a thread that will only devolve into a gender war.

Both sexes are as capable of courtesy and crass behaviour as each other.

I referred to the toilet seat issue as it is apparently of great angst for some people - yet there is a simple, equitable and hygienic solution.

End of story.

If the rest of you wish to demean each other, be my guest. Will you achieve anything positive? Unlikely.

At least have fun while you're slagging each other.

Caio

CJ Morgan, "Ha Severin! We put the lid down in our house too, for the same reason. No arguments on that subject here either"

Goodness C J you are so supportive, even if it is a bit obvious at times.

So it could be assumed that you also sit to urinate for the same reason?

Does anyone else think it is funny that a thread about manners has degenerated into bad manners.

Typical of OLO culture...but it is a bit funny...

'yet there is a simple, equitable and hygienic solution.'

That being; leave the toilet seat how you would like to find it the next time you frequent the toilet.

But in your solution...

Simple: Well, only if you're the 'special' gender who must have everything your own way and arrogantly refuse to compromise. As in 'End of argument', or 'End of Story'.

equitable: No way! Equitable would mean equal effort in maintaining the needs of men and women.

hygienic: Well I've already torn apart that justification.

'Will you achieve anything positive? Unlikely.'

on OLO? LOL!

OLO, the home of achieving positive solutions to the great moral challenges of our time. Well, only if we'd play by Fractelle's rules. Oh, the missed opportunities! The humanity!

'At least have fun while you're slagging each other.'
Oh no worries there.

Don't knock it Cornflower, there, sooner or later, go you, {& I if we live long enough], so I'm told.

When working in the bush with my dad, then in his late 70s, or early 80s, he took a pee, behind a tree. He came back muttering about how nice it was to pee, standing up.

At my perplexed expression he explained. As he had aged, & the once powerful mussels had weakened, his once mighty stream had also weakened. It had become split into 2 miserable little trickels, one high, & one low.

This meant that if he dirrected the high one into the bowl, the lower one got his shoes. If the lower one was so aimed to make the bowl, the higher one got the back of the lifted seat.

He had been sitting for some time, to avoid displeasing mum.

I gather this is a common fact of aging.

No laughing please ladies.

Hasbeen

Too much information, but women would be scoffing not laughing now that Go Girl has been invented.

http://www.go-girl.com/

pelican was right, this is a funny thread.