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Posted by DreamOn, Sunday, 18 April 2010 6:23:15 PM
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DreamOn,
Aku menarik perhatian Anda untuk komentar saya: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=3556&page=0#85221 Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 18 April 2010 6:41:40 PM
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Dear DreamOn,
He's not "my" Dr Collins. And he has quite a lot to say on the subject of child sexual abuse. I'm only going to give you a glimpse of what he has to say because for me this discussion has run its course, and I've been trying to leave it, but keep getting roped in. Besides I'd rather you did your own research. I'm not actually looking to convert you. As I suspect that you've already made up your mind. Here's the glimpse: " No one is denying that sexual abuse of children is horrendous and intolerable and that the failure of the church to deal with it effectively has done immearuable damage to victims. The cover-ups, the protection of abusive clergy and the refusal to admit mistakes are unjustifiable. I still remember my friend, the late Father Robert Bullock, a senior parish priest in the Boston archdiocese and one of the leaders of the Boston priests whose protests led to the removal of Cardinal Bernard Law as archbishop, saying that we have not yet even begun to calculate the damage these crimes have done to people's trust and to the reputation of the church... ...Bullock was right. There is no doubt that the clerical profession has taken a severe battering and that respect for the priesthood is, understandably, at an all time low. People are rightly sceptical about everything the church says about gender and sexuality. This has a flow-on effect with the Church's entire message ... trust is going to have to be built from the bottom up by bishops and priests before pronouncements on morality will be taken seriously again... " See you on another thread. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 April 2010 7:31:04 PM
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Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 18 April 2010 7:45:23 PM
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Pembenci homoseksual.
Pembenci irasional. sad Posted by Pynchme, Monday, 19 April 2010 12:18:56 AM
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I think that it is a shame that you are always telling us that your leaving when things start to heat up. Still, you know what's best for you.
Re: Collins well, to me it's just a blurring of the edges and advocation for their continuance. People who discriminate against woman, gays and both abuse and cover up abuse of children should be removed from power, with force if necessary. Thank you for your sharing your research though. .. And, what's this? Does indeed the Spirit of *Boazy* endure? Ayo membuktikan lg. Ketika baru omong sama ak, *Boazy* berkerja di mana? Dan siapa "Little Sister?" ;-) Whilst I also share a number of CJ's views, in regards to *Boazy* we differ, in that I very much enjoy and appreciate his presence. Posted by DreamOn, Monday, 19 April 2010 12:50:08 AM
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You appear to have made a leap of logic that states that I have not read your posts because I have a different view about you than what you have about yourself, and a different view about what needs to be done about the slime of catholicism in the world.
I would ban it as an organisation for starters and NOT because I am opposed to "Freedom of Religion" but rather that such freedom does not extend to discriminating against woman and gays.
Likewise, you can worship the Devil for all I care, but that said freedom does not extend to the kidnap, rape and sacrifice of Virginal maids on the altar of the Anti Christ during Black Mass.
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So, it leaves me wondering what your Dr Collins knows about the pedophilia issue, as it is after all an issue of long standing. If he's the expert that you say, then surely he would be aware of it?
As we don't all have a library and the time to read regularly, why not sum up for us in regards to what this person has said in relation to the problem of child abuse, pedophilia and cover up?
I would be pleased to hear that I have misjudged him.