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Evolution is not a scientific theory

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ROFL!

I’ve let this conversation go because it’s like talking about a fairy tale all the time and I lacked the time.

But thanks for adding a new point, All; something new added is always a good thing, even when it doesn’t make much sense (no nastiness intended).

All, this article is quite interesting, it’s about human evolution signs of the past 5000-15000 years “Still Evolving, Human Genes Tell New Story”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/science/07evolve.html?ei=5070&en=755f148af73219e8&ex=1170651600&pagewanted=print

You should understand that evolution takes a loooooooooooooooooong time. It doesn’t happen in 100 or even 1000 years.
It’s hard to imagine for the human brain that something can take millions of years to show changes through evolving so you can imagine that th echanges over about 7000 years are bound to be extremely subtle or minimal.

There are some things that point to evolving humans though. To name a couple, I’d think of human teeth and human digestion.

According to my dentist, humans are starting to lose their wisdom teeth- some children’s xrays show that they don’t have embedded wishdom teeth at all. Perhaps in 10,000+ years there won’t be any humans left who have wisdom teeth.
Also, the study of the lactase gene point to the fact that humans are still evolving. There is evidence that lactose intolerance has a genetic basis. Suffering from lactose intolerance are:
95% of Asian people
75% of Afro-Caribbean people
50% of Mediterranean people
10% of northern European peopl
Posted by Celivia, Saturday, 3 February 2007 10:03:56 PM
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Thanks for the link Celivia, It was interesting none the less:
But;
With your thoughts on Dental evolution, technically I will need to ask my sister in-law, she is head of the dental faculty in Szeged.
But I do know that there are any numerous diseases that are a genetic malfunction, not Evolution.
Some of which do not appear to the naked eye; so I do not hold much faith in your dentists philosophical positioning.

The article does discuss as what we have discussed, that it is not based on Science.
Let me quote a part of the article:
“The four populations analyzed in the HapMap project are the Yoruba of Nigeria, Han Chinese from Beijing, Japanese from Tokyo and a French collection of Utah families of European descent. The populations are assumed to be typical of sub-Saharan Africa,( Relevance to the Book I Attached above) East Asia and Europe, but the representation, though presumably good enough for medical studies, may not be exact.”

Yes now that sounds familiar; not exact. And a rather broad based statement based on nothing; and not science other than wishful thinking.
But at least we can dispel some of the notions we are all the same, and according to that article we are of distinct racial categories;
Do you know how many arguments that will create in the Proletariat lobotomization and dumping down possess?
That conflicts with every brainwashed Ideal that exists today.

Did you think I would not read your links?
I do , I am not a box head when it comes to finding things out , and others views, but that link is very peculiar and does not promote your perspectives very well.

The next step is to find out more about the authors and contributors of the findings; I think I will find out more about them than their findings.

I do not know where the 7 thousand year time line comes from. But it is true to suggest it is a whole lot furrrrther back than that time line.
Posted by All-, Sunday, 4 February 2007 1:25:41 AM
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Ha ha All, is this part of your stand up routine? Keep it coming this is great entertainment.

Celivia that is interesting about wisdom teeth. Studies with monozygotic and dizygotic twins show that personality traits are also genetic. Our personalities are externalities of genetic combinations but the environment breaks down that influence through genetic damage over the course of a life time. A shy child can become extraverted. The same is the case with nearly all hereditary illnesses such as heart disease and certain cancers. An example is some people have enough genetic material to repair the lungs over 100 years so can smoke and live a long life with low risk of lung cancer. Others with less material could live to 100 without lung cancer if the environment such as smoking is not taken up by them. The person living to 100 without lung cancer if immortal would eventually succumb to lung cancer.

Genes are like value packs of batteries , once used up through over use the package is empty and what’s left of a battery will not light a torch. This is why an environment is important to our health and anti oxidants and lowering of free radicals in our system is so important.

Lactose intolerance runs in my family but hits us when we are in our teens showing that in the case of my family the lactose digesting gene combination is there at birth but it is not sufficient enough to survive our diets by the time we are adults.
Posted by West, Sunday, 4 February 2007 11:24:38 AM
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You must forgive me west, but I do detect a large contribution from most; based on the Hegelian Philosophical principle;
I have yet to determine if it is actually by Natural selection or by Unintelligent Indoctrination;
and there fore a subconscious attribute that leads to the deterioration and subjective notion that what is true is false what is good is evil and Science is fiction.

Even a Ding Bad Et All- like me can tell you psychpathy is a "HEREDITORY" trait, how you conger up Evolutionary aspects is a bit of Moral inverted Voodoo on your behalf.

If I was to apply a clinical expression to explain these phenomena’s, I would undoubtedly be attacked from all sides and run the risk of being overwhelmed by your flattery.
To Explain the Hegelian Syndrome, Here is a link to help: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/131/

But what part of my post before do you not understand?
I had a slight chuckle at the Genetic package ordeal- and you accuse me of comedy sketching.
I hope you are not serious and have the basic grasp of what actually constitutes genetics and D N A; And Santa clause Juxtaposed to the tooth fairy have nothing to do with it.
Now that would be Voodoo, and an unwarranted assertion; perhaps a little bit of Hegelian mixed with Kant maybe?
Posted by All-, Sunday, 4 February 2007 11:52:26 AM
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Isn't the loss of wisdom teeth and lactose intolerance etc an emerging loss of genetic information, not an adding to develop a new more developed species to cope with the environment? From reports on genetics Iv'e heard, science tells of the weakening of the human genome. 1. because the majority of children are now born from older parents 2. because of male exposure to higher levels of radiation 3. because of less children born to each parent limits diversity.

The human species is weakening to invironmental conditions not emerging into a new more robust species. Perhaps those with lactose intolerance and gluten intolerance will emerge to be able to merely survive on fruit. Fruit and herbs being the original diet of humans, before grain was gathered, or animals herded or eaten. The human bowel was not designed (for West's sake has evolved) to intake meat, indicating the intake of meat for humans has not changed our bowel in human evolutionary history. However will the shortening of the bowel by continual surgical means; mean we will evolve to have shorter bowels. So many questions - so little time.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 5 February 2007 4:23:43 AM
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The genes responsible for lactose digestion enabled homosapiens to extend their breast feeding period in higher latitudes during the ice age. Those in that area at that time which were born with insufficient genetic coverage to digest lactose would have died.

This occurs everyday. The majority of conceptions are aborted naturally every day weeding out genetic makeup that are not compatible with the environement including the environment of the womb.

It is like indoor paint , in the interior of a building it can exist in a good state for many years but outside of a building it will peel or fade. Outdoor paint will exist in a healthy state in both indoors and out. Both are paint made by the same factory , just a different make up.
Posted by West, Monday, 5 February 2007 9:13:40 AM
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