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Evolution is not a scientific theory
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Posted by All-, Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:59:45 AM
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All,
I do not mean to ridicule if you feel there's ridicule- I'm merely expressing my opinion. Thing is, I cannot get over the fact that some people are so gullible to believe claims by creationists or IDers, such as that the earth is 6000 years old! By the Alpha and Omega theory, do you mean “God’s eternity” as written in the Bible? : “God says, “I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last,” meaning that God remains from the beginning to the end of time.” Is there anything you want or need to explain about this ‘theory’? I’m not sure what you are trying to say. The fact that these words are in the bible do not mean they are the truth; the bible was written by people. You know very well from previous posts that when I say ‘in my opinion’ I have based my opinion on the evidence scientists have offered as opposed to an opinion derived from legends and myths from the bible. Scientists don’t claim that they have the only answer there will ever be; only religions claim they have all the answers. Of course there can be no ‘proof’ that souls do not exist, just like you can’t prove to me that the tooth fairy does not exist. Does the tooth fairy therefore exist? I chose to base my opinion on the most reasonable facts that are available at the moment and these are the ones science has come up with, not the ‘facts’ as ID and creationists are presenting without evidence to back up their claims. The facts are that there is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of a God or of souls. All the scientific evidence point to evolution, NOT to creationism or ID, and not to the existence of a God or souls. Posted by Celivia, Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:10:59 AM
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No Celivia, it is not intended from biblical recall, but from Aristotle on ward;
The Alfa and Omega intended is a publication for the search of the Beginning and the end of the Universe; I have a hard drive copy of what seems to be plagiarized notes ether for or on behalf of NASSA; as the same publication appears in their book case along with some of their greater Pseudo publications; I say that UN sparingly, because there are several / No ; A lot more Engineers and tech Support teams in the field of M O, and doctorate in Astrophysics who absolutely deny and are outraged that pseudo garbage is presented as fact; When others lives depend on professionals, there is no room for error; so Philosophical perspectives, it has no place in Science so complex. With or with out God. That has to ring loud and clear in today world with Greenie pseudo science of Doom and gloom. There is such a term now days that is simply termed Altruism; that is the catalyst that creates confusion. And it self is a religion based on Materialisms command and control center. Here is a resent publication in the field of Alfa and Omega; It will not read anywhere near the indoctrination of these days. http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?p=378&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 And here is a link that describes Theosophy; “WARNING”, it may make some Eyes and Noses Bleed and at worst may send some into spasmodic supernatural convulsion; So please bear with me on this one. Ha http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/124/ Posted by All-, Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:54:25 AM
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ALL I would like to express I enjoy your style so even though I may sound as if I am aggressively at a polar opposite to you (and I fundementally am) I welcome your debate.
You seem to be jumping around like Spring heeled Jack (a Victorian era supernatural phenomena which turned out as to be expected a prank devised by three men in a pub). To pull out one of your 'springing' "That has to ring loud and clear in today world with Greenie pseudo science of Doom and gloom." Pollution falls well within the laws of cause and effect. Greenie pseudo science of Doom and gloom is an articulation that if you poison something enough it keels over. That is not like "the end of times" "the Rapture" "the second coming of Christ" "Armaggedon" All such are Prophecies, prophecies are lies the sales staff have to add to sell the book. There has to be a percieved risk for not conforming to a set of rules for a superstition to flourish otherwise there would be no reason not to get out of bed on Friday the 13th or worship Jesus. Posted by West, Sunday, 28 January 2007 12:14:52 PM
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For those who wish to debate wether we have a soul or not, have not understood what is meant by soul. The soul is your life the living person, we do not have a part called the soul - we are a soul. It is our life, our living and the impact we have as a presence in this universe. The soul is not a part of the psyche, it is the total life expressed - the person. Who you are as a living being. The body is the chemistry through which you express who you are - who you are as a living being is you - the soul.
You make an impact in time upon the universe that remains an eternal part of history. Persons like WEST might wish to deny this because it has no chemical reality but to believers in spiritual dimensions to life there is a reckoning for a life lived - The judgment upon the soul. Posted by Philo, Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:56:50 PM
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Philo I really can not understand how you can not see that what you said above was based on your fantasy , what you wish to believe based on your preferences without one tiny shred of grounding in reality.
Still if we go back to the Jews before around 150 to 200 Bc , the Greeks , the Romans , many of the southern Celt cultures and others besides when the only immortals were deified heroes who became gods or the many gods themselves. Both the soul and spirit literally meant the regard the living had for the dead. Those forgotten by the living are extinguished for eternity. When the sun expands or the oceans sink into giant aquifers , there will be nobody to remember anybody and immortality in the esoteric sense will be extinguished. Immortality is worship of the flesh, it was resisted by the Jews until it became a new age cult such as the occult magic focused pentecostalism today. If any character resembling Jesus ever existed at the alledged time in history he there would be no doubt he would have been pandering to devotees on the last waves of that flesh worshipping cult. Posted by West, Monday, 29 January 2007 10:08:10 AM
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But it is a good sign you recognize Psychology as a parameter.
Let’s work of that theses then.