Good one All , now god is dependent on the opinion of one dentist.

God is dependent on the opinions of a dentist is quite ironic for three reasons. The first is the reason Celivia has already generously supplied to us. The second is God is comparable to the toothfairy , another supernatural being which requires blinkered faith. The other reason is that no faith healer, no adult touched by god can regrow lost teeth. According to the snake oil merchants god can cure cancer, cure blindness, cure the crippled but god is at a loss for regrowing lost teeth.

OUCH looks bad that a designer of teeth cannot replicate his work. Then the bumbling idiot filled sugar beets and sugar cane with sucrose , fruit with fructose and milk with lactose. Then to add insult to injury he spilt streptococci in somebodys mouth a few thousand years ago and its spread to all continents. What was he thinking designing streptococci? For a designer of life he is not hygenic at all. Secularist health officials would have closed down his operation and we are only talking teeth. Im sure in the next few centuries genetic designers will do a much better job.

I don’t know if Katalin would appreciate being called a God, but in her field in relation to the science; she is a leading and heavily sought after adviser next to none; in the world West, so if anyone could answer a question on wisdom teeth and why; then next to godly advice, she would be the closest.

“Can not replace teeth”; another good one West, well we can not do ID’s work, but mans Intelligence can help a little;
and the same could also be said for Amputee’s, or any other Surgery that may be required.
And for other phenomena’s posed by yourself out side of the tooth fairy theses, well as I said before, there are something’s we do not know and in seriousness we will never know, and anomalies and events that may evade rational explanations as we know them.

Could be where that coined expression comes from West; God only knows !. Ha

All, I am genuinely interested in the answer someone could come up with about wisdom teeth other than an evolutionist explanation so I will enquire.
Will let you know when I get a reply.
I’d like to see another explanation of the disappearing third molars or wisdom teeth. Some people (one in a few thousand) still have a fourth molar!!

Although I believe you that she is a leading advisor and sought after by the world, she may not be knowledgeable on dental evolution. There was a conference a couple of years back in Leipzig on Dental Perspectives on Human Evolution. I’d like to ask the question to one of those participants. http://www.eva.mpg.de/evolution/confMay2005/index.htm There are some interesting abstracts. I haven’t had time to properly read them- I just discovered this site.

Anyway, ID won’t deny micro evolution- simply because they cannot get away with denying it; it would look even more ignorant and stupid than denying macro evolution.
So even people like the Kent Hovind (I think he’s in jail for tax fraud) aren’t denying micro evolution. Simply because stories such as the story of Noah’s Ark would proof to be silly.
If Noah would have had to take two of EVERY living species in his ark (and he’d better checked that they were heterosexual, lol), this would be too ridiculos for the most fanatic theist to believe.
I still don’t get it that people belief stories like this to be true.
Have they ever thought of the HUGE food supply, fresh veggies for the herbivores, meat for the carnivores that Noah also would have to supply?
I think they were on this boat for about a year! No way. People nowadays cannot even export sheep without half of them ending up sick or dying.

So the thing that ‘really’ needs to be discussed is not micro evolution but macro evolution as this is the subject of ignorance and denial by creationists as well as ID’ers.

To be continued below

All, you are right to say that the article I provided is not scientific- I merely brought it up as a point of discussion because I find it interesting; same with the wisdom teeth. My not so good choice of an article doesn’t prove that God created the world, though.

On the point whether Human biological evolution is still happening or not, I wouldn’t really oppose a view that perhaps humans’ biological evolution has dramatically slowed down or even stopped (for a while or forever)- who knows. We don’t really have evidence to say that we are still evolving biologically; on the other hand changes can be so slow that they don’t appear in a few generations.
The gene pool is huge compared to the gene pool when most of human evolution was happening- it is bound to have slowed down.

What I do believe, and there is extensive debate on this by anthropologists and biohistorians, is that we are still evolving culturally and socially (sociocultural evolution).

West, about the creationists’ motivation, what I find amusing/annoying is that so-called “scientific creationists” (who have not a grain of evidence other than the grains of salt of the salt pillar that once was Lot’s wife) believe that people must choose between evolution and creation.
They see evolution science as an attack on the Bible because everything in the Bible should remain the truth. So they’re frantically searching for ways to attack evolutionists and ways to ‘prove’ creationism and back-paddling ‘science’ of ID.

Personally, I wonder why these theists just can’t say: “OK, let’s be real. The stories in the Bible are not ‘literally’ true. Let’s just believe that evolution is a logic and reasonable science. We can still believe that God made evolution happen.“

Some theists, it seems, are less delusional than others and have accepted this view- why can’t they all?

Celivia - even the Pope will not dispute evolution. It is completely accepted within the authorities of the Catholic Church that evolution is genuine science, and does not interfere with their beliefs.

Personally, if people want to believe that the world is mega-young and God sticky taped a couple of bones together to make people, fine. But what concerns me is this idea that there are children now being taught 'another side' of the 'story' (in SCHOOLS!), which creates the false impression that there is actual debate going on in the scientific community about ID or whatever, which is completely false, because evolution is about a proven a theory as you can get, and scientists the world over know that, because they're scientists, and they know what they're doing.

To those of you who keep asking annoying mosquito questions about evolution, and if you genuinely want to know the scientific explanations for that which you do not understand about the theory (and lack of understanding of how evolution works is clearly an issue on this thread), I recommend a one-stop location for every answer to every 'challenge' posed to evolution by creationists, ID proponents, flat earth theorists, magical flying elephant-umbrella theorists, whatever.

www.talkorigins.org

*Any* question you may have that you think disproves or discredits evolution in any way, dont ask it here. Search for it on that website. It will provide you with factual, logical explanations for your doubts and explain the position of the world wide scientific community.

But first you need to really ask yourself: Do I allow at all for the posibility that I've been wrong this whole time, and the entire science world has been right? If not, don't bother - but don't bother debating a scientific topic either, because you can't debate science if you refuse to listen to the scientific community.