Thanks Bugsy,
I have no animosity towards anyone; and as a 14 steps Professor and my protégée once told me.
“ If there is one piece of advice I could you, that you would accept; and that is keep a big smile on your face and keep moving forward, You will get there.
And there is no virtue in Ignorance”.
And , Don’t look back; only learn to move forward, always.

I have a long way to travel and reach the next 8 steps .
and I,m only a ding bat et all-

Thanks, w for that article, I was unaware that Spain had updated its laws. The more the merrier/marrier!

It’s hilarious that 38% of Spain’s Catholics are atheists!
Q “What’s your religion?”
A “I’m a Catholic atheist.”
What the?

All,
True, perhaps the whole human species need more evolving- I won’t argue with that.

“The Human is unique; it possesses a soul; or some may wish to call it something else; “
Every human being is unique, but it’s not a proven fact that people have souls; this is just a belief.

Emotions are chemical in nature. Our brain is the result of over two billion years of evolution. There are regions in the brain for compassion, empathy, altruism that can be stimulated as shown on MRI scans.

Pepper,
“'When you are born - are you born with a new spirit or is your physical being endowed with a pre-existing spirit ?' ”
First, I’d like to define ‘spirit’ as there can be many definitions of the word. What do you exactly mean by it?

Some definitions from dictionary.com:
* the principle of conscious life; the vital principle in humans, animating the body or mediating between body and soul.
* the soul regarded as separating from the body at death.
* the soul or heart as the seat of feelings or sentiments, or as prompting to action
* an individual as characterized by a given attitude, disposition, character, action, etc.

In my opinion, a soul doesn't exist, and 'spirit' describes the person's character, disposition etc.

The spirit originates in a person's genes combined with their unique, individual neuro-system, hormones, chemicals, size of their brain regions and their environment.

Because the spirit cannot live on when a person dies as it depends on someone's physical body, when a person is born, s/he can not possibly be endowed with a pre-existing spirit.

There is no pre-existing spirit.
A spirit cannot live without a physical body.

Outside of cartoon culture there is only one type of spirit - Alcohol mixed with other fluids to produce beverages, fuels or polish.

Back to the intelligent design con.

The glaring fact that intelligent design is a bogus claim constructed in order to deceive people reflects on the belief of god itself. Intelligent design is proof complete that god is itself a lie constructed in order to deceive people.

I recognise that to argue in support of Intelligent design is to admit no god exists. The same is true of the Bible and Quran and all scriptures of any like because all is done so in the absence and without any shred of the support of a factual god.

Obviously such misinformations are employed to deceive and manipulate external people into becoming superstitious to reinforce the self deception of the god believer for the purpose of at the very least of self gratification and this confirms my argument that such beliefs in deities are immoral.

I for one up until three years ago would believe in what you say,
There are about four other subjects involved though, and providing answers for them is quite difficult; but that does not mean that it is to be shoved into the too hard basket, or enter into fields of total denial.
I do understand that some find it hard to understand, but the existence of what is considered paranormal phenomena needs to be investigated with an element of professionalism; some are Nut cases, but not every one falls into that category and deserve the respect of explaining in as much detail of their experience.
In a great many of these victims, they display a paradigm shift in psychology and personality; far too in depth to waffle on about it here.

You tend to take on different perspectives when it is an eye witnesses event , but when it is 2 doctors’ three nurses and 10 family members describing a certain supernatural event pertaining to a patient/ Family member ; I would have a lesser tendency to deny something on the grounds that it could not be explained for skeptical minds to understand;

There are 10’s of millions of these cases, some are a derivative of certain pathological traits; and certainly a great many are not.

So pardon me; I would have to leave that door open.

And Celivia, you can see now that we have gone full Circle with the Evolutionary theory is not science.

You pre fix your commentary by saying; “My Opinion” and then proceed to discuss the philosophical perspectives of those thoughts, just by that very nature, it has already removed the science from the intended principled theory.
Darwin’s theories, if anything may have well been the catalyst that gave formation to Genetics and D NA studies of to day; And regardless of Philosophical perspectives, do lean toward and disprove the nature of Darwin’s initial intentions; to be otherwise.

Darwin’s Hypotheses was needed to advance to the next step in science, just as it is in many fields, it needs a catalyst to spurn interest.
The one topic that seemed to fly over every ones head is the “Alfa and Omega”. That subject Celivia is the basic principled philosophy that underpins the evolutionary theory; which surprises me, I only attracted ridicule.

There is not and has never been a supporting argument for supernatural beliefs. All argument provided supporting the supernatural wether its gods or ghosts or fairies has been personal fantasy. If a doctor or a nurse testifies to "seeing" ghosts leave bodies it only reflects on their own cognitive disability.

Intelligent Design is different because it is not science , its not religion it is politics. Intelligent Design is the Christian version of Halalis women in bikinis are meat.

Both are expresions of the religious persons hatred of humanity. Deep down God believers know they are wrong, they must because everything that is ever said about god is made up and made up by them. God is a reflection of ego , self obsession. Intelligent Design and mysogeny are demonstrations of religious peoples resentment of the well adjusted community.