Communism was invented by Protestants around the Baltic hot on the heels of Martin Luther. Calvanist church structure still demonstrates their communist beginings , indeed quakers and Amish are proto-communist. For the communist , Jesus taught communism, no matter how the Pentecostals try and spin it Jesus in the New testament was preaching communism and not prosperity occult.
Communism is and has always been modelled on the protestant plan.

Fascism is an extension of the Roman Catholic Church and this is where it has drawn its symbology, style of nationalism and anti-semitism from. Everytime the postion of pope becomes vacant so many candidates are monouvered because of links with Nazis during the Third Reich. You only need to get Mel Gibson drunk or regularly read a few writers in the Weekend Australian to find the fine line between fascism and its Catholic role model.

Celivia is only stating that evolution is REAL TRUTH as it is a process of nature and that ID is fiction. All You must tolerate those who dare to be objective.The ID fight was lost before it began.

And All to a non-superstitious person such as my self I see no difference between Islam and Christianity and when Muslims bring up stupid notions like ID I say so, I am not singling out Christians. Superstition is superstition wether its a belief in prophets , messiahs , elves, gods or the magic of knocking on wood.

Wishing on a star with crossed fingers I evoke you to respond :)

Celivia thankyou for that link yes resistor was quite a threatening character but he mention the Darwinist conspiracy against white supremacy into his rant which showed where his head was at.( oh yes ALL )include white supremacy and the KKK in the list of Christian inspired political systems along with communism and fascism.

Although Celivia I had to laugh that it took a sinister image of an abusive white supremist disguised in dark sunglasses with a Confederate flag streched out behind him to bat for Jesus and Intelligent Design.

I urge all ID pushers in this thread to view Celivias posted link to see how low your argument has sunk.

West,
yeah hehehe the purpose of Resistor’s sunglasses may have been to cover his glazed-over eyes.

All,
no offence intended but evolution scientists are very willing to accept that there is a God and that all things said in the Bible are true and would even accept that the devil uses science to trick people.
All they need is evidence.
Until then: God remains a delusion, theists remain deluded, scientists will keep finding more pieces of the puzzle to discover the ‘real’ truth and evolution is to be taught in schools as a science because it involves so many branches of science and high-tech scientific equipment to measure and discover things with.

So far, scientists from several fields have agreed that evolution is the most reasonable, most reliable, most logical piece of evidence there is.
As I said, the good thing about science is that theories can be changed if new evidence turns up.
Unlike the Bible, science books are always updated.
Scientists are not out to fight for some agenda- they are out to discover the truth.

I'm not sure if West uses intelligence because he cannot grasp any intelligent design in natural sciences. Obviously he believes in the random scrambled and accidental approach to life. I happen to believe in deliberate design and predictibility designed within the nature of the atomic chemistry. I happen to believe in a progress of design that is innate in the cell chemistry that was originally and is deliberately designed by its Creator to unfold as he has designed.

West obviously denies there is any design, purpose or meaning to being. I happen to believe there is purpose to living and that beyond what we as individuals might believe is our basic instincts to survive. It is from this belief we arrive at presevation of boundaries in actions and behaviours - a moral code.

God is not a being absent from the Universe; in fact God is not a spatial being at all. He is the Holy spirit expressed through his creation. Notably through the intelligent pinicale of revelation in human life and graceous actions of people who express his pure character. However humanity is in unintelligent rebellion to the Creator God of Design. Everyone's behaviour is best in his / her own eyes, they believe my values are as goog as anyones. However there are principles for best relationships and health with the organic chemistry and each other that are abused; because we do not recognise design.

If you are speaking fact Philo then you will supply intelligent Designs missing links , you will prove god exists and everything you say of that god is true and you will show you held that knowledge before you went public with it. Otherwise all you are saying is you have a fantasy and I am stupid for not believing your fantasy is reality.

West; Wishing on a Star;

Actually west; that is a good point, and you may have stumbled on to something; and that is where the E T crowd get it from.

To display something that may be of Interest, you need to look at some of the more Ancient structures on all parts of the globe;
And as I have mentioned before, some structures in the South Americas; pre date the Pyramid of Kefu in Cairo by about one thousand years.
What I meant before by the Mathematics involved, every single structure has a unique quality and deliberate intentional Architectural property. It is that property I will not supply the answer: it is only found if you look for it. And if you are interested for some answers. Could be some almighty coincidence; But considering the structures locations on the Globe, I am very surprised that it seems to be a secret , and a well kept; but the structures still remain in full plain sight.

This is where the Cosmology and advanced physics meet ;( Out side Post Modernity) I referred before to Alfa and Omega, Apply Quantum Physics and principled findings; general Mathematical calculations even using dimensions of these structures; Exhibit; Including Stone Henge.
Still not conclusive!
But it is just a bit more than a coincidence to be by chance.
Refer to theory of relativity / Newton- Einstein Space time continuum / Quantum Mechanics; Matter / Anti matter etc.
The Anatomical structure that can have no name, commonly referred to is ; The god String – The un explainable.
And yes there is something to do with . “Gold”.
Not conclusive, but how many people know the anatomical structure that makes up and constitutes gold, and understand its properties.
The simple things are always the best.