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A Joke that's sadly fact !

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At first I thought this was funny..... Then I realized the awful truth of it.

Be sure to read all the way to the end!

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think..

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
It?S time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Airline surcharge tax
Airline Fuel Tax
Airport Maintenance Tax
Building Permit Tax

Boat Licence Tax

Boat Rego Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Death Tax
Dog License Tax
Driving Permit Tax
Environmental Tax (Fee)
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment (UI)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Gasoline Tax (too much per litre)
Gross Receipts Tax
Health Tax
Hunting License Tax
Hydro Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Mortgage Tax
Personal Income Tax
Property Tax
Poverty Tax
Prescription Drug Tax
Provincial Income and sales tax
Real Estate Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Retail Sales Tax
Service Charge Tax
School Tax
Telephone Federal Tax
Telephone Federal, Provincial and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Water Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
--- and in 2010

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middle class, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in "Hell" happened? Can you spell 'politicians?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 8:42:46 AM
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Can you spell "mum"?

That's how we do it in Australia. That list of taxes isn't Australian either - we're not an American state yet.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:00:30 PM
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Actually, for most middle-income Australian families, the net tax is zero or less. The net spend on rebates, subsidies, etc is about 10% more than the net personal income tax collected. That was so under Howard and under Rudd it has surely gone up a lot.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:35:22 PM
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Antiseptic, that's an interesting claim. Can you provide any more information? Thanks.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 3:04:19 PM
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Regardless of the minor errors individual is 100% correct in his sentiments.This is why we need a new political party.

"Tax Attack"

Anthony works at the grocery store,
saving his pennies for some day'
Mumma Leone left a note at the door
She said'
"Sonny move out of the country"
Working too hard can give you a tax attack-ack-ack-ack
You oughta know by now'
.....................
....................
And it seems such a waste of time'
If that's what's it all about,
If that's movin' up
Then I'm,movin' out

So put on some B Joel and get angry.
It is now beyond a farce.The system will collapse under the weight of it's own stupidity.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 3:04:35 PM
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Individual, good thread.

But the list of things that are taxed is actually vastly longer in Australia, if you think about the GST and every single traded item or service (with a very small number of exemptions) that incurs a tax.

The big problem is, finding a balance between a tax system that is too simplistic and hence too unfairly allocated and one that it too complex and hence hard to follow and expensive to administer.

Perhaps a great long list of taxes is not so bad when you realise that only the people undertaking those activities or buying those goods are paying tax on them, rather than with broad-sweeping taxes where everyone, for example, pays for education regardless of whether or not they are using that service or have kids using it.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 4:42:23 PM
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This e mail is getting around, yes it is sad but those who send it are often from the far right and Christians.
They also send increasingly strident anti Muslim stuff.
Very anti climate change, they say it is not happening man made or other, yes Individual it is indeed sad, but such henny Penny's always will think the sky is falling.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 5:11:59 PM
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@ Belly
So what's your point?

As if people give a flying rats who posted it or created it. The fact is it's a gross injustice!

The worst thing about that grossly incomplete list is the fact that we individual business owners get given the privilege of administering and collecting it for them as well, wonderful huh?

We truly are suckers!
Posted by RawMustard, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 6:49:46 PM
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It is apparent RAW MUSTARD you think you are pretty hot.
Such a tag infers you are proud to be prickly.
We have clashed before, in fact I promised myself not to answer you.
See I do not share your confidence in your self, see no value in insults for the sake of it.
but do launch counter shots.
I by the way proudly stand on the opposite side of the political net, the winning side.
my point?
Writing very slow for you, the tax's are not spent on Kevin Rudd, I have no intention of drawing up a list of what government does for you , with those tax's.
try living without that stuff.
sorry if I wrote too fast.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 28 January 2010 5:19:47 AM
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Belly,
One of the scary scenario of our times is the real possibility of Soylent Green or THe Island. Scary of course only for the thinkers, mere followers are oblivious to social engineering. In fact mere followers are the individual cells that fuel this cancer of apathy that is the unquestioned acceptance of more & more imposition, taxes being the major component.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 28 January 2010 6:13:23 AM
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How else could we send hundreds of dishonest people off to CopenHagen to loathe the achievements of man while insisting on 5 star comfort in doing so.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 28 January 2010 11:48:34 AM
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Joke is right,

Your implied reasoning is exactly that. It is so shallow that it would
a race between a mossie bending its ovipositor and evaporation.
It boils down to two words "I want" and yes that *is* sad.

Without taxes how does a govt pay for your other 'I wants'.
i.e. I don't have a car so why should I pay for roads? ....
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:31:03 PM
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@ Belly

Hang on! The topic is about the amount of taxes we're subject to and you go off on a rant about Muslim haters and Global Warming Deniers and these are relevant how? Hence why I asked what's your point?

It would appear you look for abuse where it doesn't exist and may even try to ignite it. I think the term is "having a chip on ones shoulder"

You say taxes are not spent on Krudd yet I made no mention of the wretch, you did. But lets not forget how much this wretch has wasted our hard earned labour on frivolous adventures. Personal Pastry Cooks, blah, blah, blah, indeeed!

Belly, if you see every topic as an attack on your beloved tinsel coated, gold lined demigod, then I suggest your get out more and get some fresh air mate.

examinator wrote:
"I don't have a car so why should I pay for roads?"

You shouldn't and that's the point. I have no right in demanding you give up the fruits of your labour so that I may enjoy a 4 lane super highway!

It's this demand of more and more of our labour to provide for more and more people that is creating the transactions that can be filtered of funds for the privileged(pollies) while also destroying our planet in the name of growth!

It's a no win situation for us plebs, yet some of us somehow defend these wretches. Where does it end?
Posted by RawMustard, Thursday, 28 January 2010 2:19:25 PM
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In no way raw mustard have you convince me other than in my last post.
Consider this
Rudd rightly said
In less than 35 years the NSW health bill will be equal to all tax's except the GST.
Education defense, border protection health transport infrastructure.welfare, the list is a great deal longer than the tax rant.
who will pay if not us.
who dies because they can not pay.
who among us could not add ten items to the list of government paid for services.
Who can say tax's are any different under Rudd than Howard.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 28 January 2010 5:09:16 PM
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how?

lets try to explain...the gist of the issue has facts behind it

[ok its from usa but the same moneychangers stole the fed reserve/globally..now govt needs to lend its own legal tender..instead of just issuing it as needed/intrest free

the tax we pay ..dosnt go to the govt either..[it all goes straight to the fed].. to pay the intrest on govt loans...read the hansard debates about when personal taxation was introduced...read your constitution ...stating govt shall not make anything /..but gold/silver coin lawfull tender

govt have the right of seignorge..[the right to mint coin]..paper money is a bank bill..[origonally to be used between bankers only]..bank bills are owned/issued by the fed..[a great franchise..having your own money machine...then control the world via exclusive franchise..[little wonder jesus up-set the money chanmgers tables when he came to satans realm

by..using the credit to by up the media and politics..[and law and just about any thing else it choses]..the money chanmgers give us inflation/deflation at will...simply issue more money/expanding the monetary supply..inflaTION IS YET ANOTHER TAX..

ITS GOTEN..to the point where 95 percent of everything is held by less than 5 percent..[via multinational corperations..that own other corperations]..these corperations have gotten the rights of the person..and the people have gotten the shaft...govt run by lawyers

but then what better do we deserve?...THOSE WHO DONT STUDY THE PAST...just get the same/same..again../AGAIN..be they in usa/greenland/japan/zimbabwe..or in the land of oz
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 28 January 2010 11:03:14 PM
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Raw,
Ok how about power to your house? Your fees don't cover the cost or the road past you place.
How about police to protect you,
Fire brigade, army,
Hospital,
water sewerage?

Get real.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 29 January 2010 12:12:42 AM
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It's true that we didn't have these taxes a hundred years ago but then again we didn't have a lot of other things too.

Remember that when you're on the way home from the (free) Hospital with your taxpayer-funded medications in your hand, waiting for Pension day to roll around so you can prepare for that that subsidised train trip out to visit relatives in that taxpayer-funded aged care facility. Maybe you could check out those new navy ships on the way - the ones moored near that University and Research Facility.

Then again, would some more "sandwich-and-a-milkshake" tax-cuts be better than having any of these things at all?
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 29 January 2010 1:42:32 AM
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Education, understanding, open minded thought, all building blocks for humanity's progress.
If man is still around in some form in ten thousand years.
And if this thread was the only retrievable bit of writing.
Those reading it may well wonder how we got this far.
They may think on every street corner we had a large heap of rocks, to throw at our leaders.
They would surely be forced to think we cared little for each other.
That saw tax's as theft but services as a right.
No come, be honest the thread is unfocused not thought out, it is an attempt to blacken governments.
Labor today, maybe hushed once Liberals return to power but as they basically are the same in taxes, them too.
Sorry truly, for those who find facts and justification in this lost thread, even my mate rechtub would scream blue murder if his business did not get the invisible aid tax pays for.
I think some should await the opening of Parliament if they need to insult governments this thread did not work, it is patently one sided and so very silly.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 29 January 2010 3:56:46 AM
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Go on CJ Morgan, we became the United States of Australia with the Australia Act 1986. If that spectacled Owl we now have as Prime Minister cannot see that, and he has been told, Clint Eastwood just might say, Make my day.

I don’t know what you do but I am a street lawyer, who despises most of the profession, but somehow manages to survive, as a magnet for those in deep cacka. As a Street lawyer, I am not a member of any Bar, except the AB. ( when at home). I don’t go to the dinners, I don’t go to the Lodge, I don’t do any more exams, and I dont think much of most lawyers I know either in Queensland, New South Wales or Victoria, and even less of the ones I know in Tassie and South Australia. The ACT is in New South Wales and they are a bit grubby too.

One of these little grubs, even sent a bill to a deceased estate, and tried to extort money by taking out an AVO. They look pretty but inside they are totally disloyal to Australia, and are quite happy to have us as slaves. What really gives me the jimmy brits, is that the laws are good, just the lawyers are bad. So when someone comes to me and starts crying, if it’s a woman, or starts wanting to murder some mongrel if it’s a man, I tell them what they need to do. Its hard work, but when people do the right thing, the system does not want to make a fool of itself.

While you and the rest of them who think we are not a Republic already continue to be fooled, than we will have a United States of Australia, and not One Nation. The United Nations of Australia is a dirty joke. Its dirty because all taxes should be subject to one test. Are the terms just. I am not rich, I don’t drive a Porsche, but I can shave every morning knowing I am at peace with My God
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Friday, 29 January 2010 5:45:36 AM
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Just a little story; I was approached by a forty year old tradesman, who had been listening to some of the alternative law guru’s like Malcolm McClure, the fellow whose loyal follower spent eleven months in jail, because he did not know how to get her out, and others in the honour-dishonour school. He had gone before a Magistrate and she in usual fashion had without trial ordered him to pay $40,000 to the Australian Taxation Office.

He came to me in desperation. I listened to his story and realised he was living from hand to mouth, working hard with his wife and one son in a family business, supplying an essential service. After paying his mortgage, school fees for his two younger children, the payments on his Tradies Ute, and his wife’s baby mover, food and electricity the family had about $20 at the end of the week.

I am a cunning old fox, and I remembered the hardship provisions of the Tax Act 1936. Retired Peter moved those provisions to another Act, the Tax Administration Act 1953, and Section 340:10-40 makes provision for the forgiveness of tax in cases of hardship. There is even an interactive prescribed form on the Internet. My boy filled it in, sent it away, and within seven days had a response from the Australian Taxation Office. Send us your last two tax returns, they said, and the last three months bank Statements. This he did, and they said , Yes, we forgive you your debt.

He wanted to give me some money, but I knew he was battling. He went away happy as larry. I had not done anything really, just point him in the right direction and hold his hand for a bit. I have had other victories against the Taxation Department. No doubt we will lock horns again. I have lost a few but the Australian Taxation Office mostly gets nothing, when the victim has nothing. The ones who can afford flash lawyers give them money and the Australian Taxation Office money too. The Australian Taxation Office loves lawyers
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Friday, 29 January 2010 10:49:57 PM
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To All,
We get what we ask for. Almost a life time ago living in shortage desperately counting my pennies I was given some good advice by a banker friend. Stop penny pinching start filling the tank and live in the overflow. Man should never be your focal point as he only sees the impossible shortage in the situation. Belly, Jesus is still the answer not your mate crudd or little jonnie or even me. The problem is not wrong government but wrong God. I have been told coal seam gas has all the answers for our future as it is carbon friendly and we have an over abundance. But I know if we continue with wrong focus [man] it will not supply our needs. Where your hip pocket is there is also your heart. I suggest you all lift your gaze from the dust looking for pennies and look up and live. So stop winging and start living. Get a heart transplant.
God bless you all.
Richie 10
Posted by Richie 10, Saturday, 30 January 2010 4:31:42 AM
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Like that strange mob who knock at the door time and again.
Hoping they will be told to leave fast.
Counting points my abuse gives them in a heaven they tell me I have no place in, unless I fall in to their fear trap.
Richie ten and others ,constantly put the foot in the door of other threads.
Like a child shouting God loves you Belly.
Then running away.
crudd Krudd or PV s communist Kevin Rudd,a Christian clearly, gets the mud too.
This thread is just a stone, thrown with ill intent, not true, nothing of real harm, a water bomb without water, puff of wind.
I fear Richie you and your like, are running out of listeners, start a thread I will come, but be unkind, true can be that way.
PV
I forever am unionist, forever Labor[ but not a blind follower]
Rudd me my party is not communist, I despise that group who enslaved workers.
Yes you are a giver, that Holly book all such books I know of said it is better to give than receive.
I too give, and get joy out of it, last night long after a club meeting, I answered questions for free, along the lines of your help to others.
PV consider your words, no way my party is any more Socialist than your actions say you are, some times.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 January 2010 5:07:09 AM
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Belly, your lot made some of the best laws Australia needs so badly, but the rank and file like you cannot get over the tugging. Tugging forelock, I mean, to mongrel scabs who have infiltrated the Labor Party from the most parasite profession on earth. Just because some bum in a suit is a solicitor he or she is worthy of respect. Not on your sweet nelly. Yet the Labor Party endorses them, and pretends they are good for Australia.

The Nationals haven’t got one in the Parliament that counts, the Parliament of the Commonwealth, but the workers party has thirty in the House of Representatives, and if your mate Kevin turns out to be a oncer as he is looking like being unless he can pass the end of term exam, then it is the white ant scabs in your party who will need to leave so you can rebuild.

Mind you he is not stupid. I see he has allocated $7.5 million just this week to the severely disadvantaged, so they will no longer have to go to Sam Tomarchio and chaps like him for emergency loans at 50% interest for a few weeks. Sam is at Laverton, 1000 K northwest of Perth. and does not really love our indigenous brothers and sisters. They break or used to break into his chalet, and steal anything not nailed down, but now he lends them emergency money they don’t do it anymore. Mind you he does not hold cash. If he did he would be dead by now.

The Australian called it a river of gold, as they can eat kangaroos they shoot, and bush tucker but for petrol they need money, and Sam gives them that when they want it, not in fortnightly dollops like Centrelink does. He sells money at about the same margin Woolies charges on food. They have no security and there are no pawnbrokers who do the same thing in the city, at Laverton. So he takes their Pin Number and Keycard. Simple system, and defaulters never get another loan.
It’s a hard world
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 30 January 2010 9:33:24 AM
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Way back when I was a a lad, a stubby was a dollar over the bar, and a carton was $5. That margin for looking at a lovely barmaid, was accepted by everyone, and even an ugly old sod like Hank, the barman at the Laura Pub, halfway between Cairns and Coen on Cape York sold stubbies for a dollar. Mind you they were cold, the road was rough, and the days always hot.
A bloke once asked Hank for a carton as he was going tin scratching, and Hank’s price was $24. Forty miles away a cold carton was $10. Bloke said, Thats a bit rough Hank! Hank said, Cant you do arithmetic, 24 stubbies is $24.

It’s a bit like that at Laverton, next town is Kalgoorlie, about 600 K away. Its not the aborigines complaining, it’s the white fellas. They think its naughty but they wont do it. Supply and demand is the fountain of capitalism. They complain that our native brothers just spend it on grog. Grog is mighty on tax and low on costs, but food and fuel gets a high priority, and everyone needs them every day up there.

A pub near Burketown, and Doomagee was into selling what they called Monkey Blood. Monkey Blood was Red Port Wine, 17% alcohol, in two litre plastic bottles bottled on premises for $20 each. Cost $2 a gallon, and Doomagee was a dry town. 100 K away. Bought it in 50 gallon barrels, for $100 a barrel. The demand was strong, and the locals would band together, get a four wheel drive, and go get a party.

Doomagee had to start building solid Besser block houses, with concrete floors, and steel shutter windows, because fibro houses had all the panels punched out, the floor burned for cooking wood, and the only thing left was the roof, and uprights. We in the city have never seen anything like it, believe me. I just hope KR has an epiphany experience, and that he wakes up that his lawyers are his worst enemies, and no joking matter.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 30 January 2010 10:00:12 AM
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All you sad republicans, who want to throw out the Crown, and get rid of Liz, are responsible for this sad American Joke. Its an American Joke because it is played upon us because most of our television is sourced in the Good Ole United States, inspired by Jews who hate Christians anyway, driven by lawyers who hate everybody, and especially against those who may be having a bit of fun living.

This whole problem is because you, my ignorant but well meaning friends no longer insist on honesty and integrity. If you go to a website, http://www.community-law.info/ or www.clrg.info, you will see the Royal Seal, reproduced by authority of the Parliament of the Commonwealth and under its auspices, expressed clearly in Statute Law. This Royal Identifier MUST be fixed on every State or Commonwealth Bill, or it does not have to be paid. You can pay it but you don’t have to. In real law the Royal Identifier, that is the one with the Lion of Judah on the top, not the scabby scoundrels seals, issued by Courts, that are illegitimate, staffed by lawyers who were the scourge of the Jews two thousand years ago and are the scourge of the gentiles today.

There is only One Almighty God. There is only One Jesus Christ, and only One Holy Ghost. We Christian Gentiles, believe that when these three come together we get good government, and His will is done on earth as it is in heaven, we get our daily bread and we offer forgiveness, as we are offered it. Revenge is sweet but it scars the revenger as much as the revenged. It does not bring back a loved one. It does not allow you to forgive and forget, and we live is a nasty vindictive world. The Royal Identifier was insisted upon to ensure that due process was followed. It was a privilege extended only to Protestant Christians, until the Australian Constitution extended it to all Christians. S 116 Constitution was the deal done, but the lawyers want us to be their slaves, not free people
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Saturday, 30 January 2010 10:47:48 AM
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There are a bunch of fellas, and some chicks who spend all day every day trying to work out new ways to scam you. They are not all young, or old, they are the best and brightest, but they are all Monarchic/Statists, and even though they may go to a church somewhere they are not Christians. Christians are the true republicans. In a republic all people are equal before Almighty God. Same in a Church. Well most churches anyway.

Taxes are optional, but Christians believe in tithing, and voluntarily giving a share of their wealth to the State, but of course when the State steals it, it is no longer an option. This Royal Authority derived from Almighty God goes all the way back to Genesis, 17:19, but when Jesus Christ came he made it a republic. He made God’s authority subject to people created in Gods Image, provided two or three gathered together in His Name. God’s covenant with Isaac, was replaced with our Covenent with Jesus Christ, and a republic was established. That is why Commonwealth means republic. It means that ultimate authority rests with the people of Almighty God. Not Almighty God ( the State) himself.

Taxes are an Atheist invention in godless republics. In a god fearing republic, of Christians, like we established in Australia, taxes did not exist per se. The Crown made an honest dollar buying gold at a fixed price, and selling it at a profit. It did not need anything except taxes and fines from sinners. Fines from sinners made up fifty percent of the revenue, murderers were hung, everyone else either became a slave, ( convict) or paid a royalty to the Crown, to stay out of jail. They could work it off and this was called a Ticket of Leave.

Lawyers had very little to sell under this system. After the Roman Catholics were readmitted to public life, about 1824, lawyers started to work out ways to screw taxes out of us. This little ditty shows how we are all again slaves, to lawyers, when we could be freemen
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Saturday, 30 January 2010 12:09:31 PM
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If I am wrong then take this as my I am sorry.
But I had thought PV was PTB/
I am aware of our Sam, thought it was 30%
action seems to be going to take place, but the above posts confirm he is not alone in being a thief riding on the back of black welfare.
I am being honest here, legal people have always been in both party's, Sir Robert Menzies is just one.
I have more fears about SOME not all, ex trade unionists who without a back wards glance sold the movement/ladder that got them there out.
In my view Simon Crean and Julia Gillard stand out as stars in this betrayal.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 January 2010 4:01:25 PM
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Peter Vexatious wrote:
"This whole problem is because you, my ignorant but well meaning friends no longer insist on honesty and integrity. If you go to a website, http://www.community-law.info/ or www.clrg.info"

Are we suppose to believe what's on those websites?
For example:
http://www.clrg.info/tax-is-voluntary/ states:

The Australian Tax Payers charter states that the tax obligations of Australians is based on a system of voluntary compliance.

The Governments Taxpayers’ Charter – expanded version (NAT 2547)
http://www.ato.gov.au/content.asp?doc=/content/preview/63132.htm
states:

Being cooperative in your dealings with us

The tax system is based on taxpayers complying
with the tax laws voluntarily and cooperating
with us. This allows us to run the tax system
at a relatively low cost to the community and
minimises unnecessary intrusion into your affairs
and those of third parties.

We prefer to work with you cooperatively, providing
you with help to meet your tax obligations
voluntarily. However, if you are uncooperative or
obstructive, we may need to take firmer action.
For example, we have formal access and
information gathering powers that we use if
necessary. People who are obstructive may
even be prosecuted.

We ask that you treat tax officers with the same
courtesy, consideration and respect they are
expected to give you. If tax officers are subjected
to rude or abusive behaviour they may end an
interview or phone call.

http://www.clrg.info/tax-is-voluntary/
then deduces:
Tax is Voluntary

Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain this to us ignorant but well meaning folks?

Because the way I see it, it's voluntary till we put a gun to your head for not volunteering.
Posted by RawMustard, Saturday, 30 January 2010 5:31:13 PM
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As with most things, the OP contains some truth and some inaccuracy - in the end that's really not relevant:

- the thing that is significant is that with rebates and offsets etc. it is indeed true that middle class Australia doesn't pay as much as that sort of list might suggest.

- the thing that is TERRIBLE is the fantastic cost involved in administering it all - ie. I would submit that in real terms we probably don't really pay much more in tax than we did in the 60's - but the government and administrative machine that drives it all most certainly costs A BUCKETLOAD MORE!

Think about that...
Posted by Spinner, Sunday, 31 January 2010 12:38:56 PM
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Raw Mustard Thank you but yes you are supposed to believe what is on those websites because each and every word on www.community-law.info is true.

Taxation is a voluntary tithe or better but the Liberals made it painless more or less for workers with PAYG. We are members of an involuntary Church called the Commonwealth. We became members of this ecumenical Church by way of a referendum in 1899. They have the General Synod in Canberra at Parliament House in the Main Cathedral. The one with the praying hands over it.

Taxation is not optional for companies. These are artificial persons created by the Parliament so under its jurisdiction, and these should be bearing the greatest burden. Individuals created by Almighty God by the miracle of conception, made free by the miracles that Jesus Christ performed, including his resurrection, are not corporations as the government would have you made. The passage of the Holy Bible that abolished personal taxation is Matthew 17: 24-29. Make some profit and read your Bible.

Jury trial comes directly out of the New Testament. Judges ruled in the Old Testament, you the people of Almighty God rule in the New Testament. Every law made by the Parliament of the Commonwealth should be tested as is silver and gold for purity, by holding it up to scrutiny in a Supreme Court. The Supreme Court was the court of Almighty God the Supreme Being, and it used to be conducted by the Rules of the Holy Bible. That is Father God on the bench represented by a Justice in a Red Robe. Jesus Christ on his right side represented by a member of each of the 12 tribes of Israel, with the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost present when two or more are gathered together in His name.

This is written into the Constitution, as S 51 Placitum xxxi, which places an obligation on the Commonwealth to provide “just terms” for the acquisition of all property. That includes your dollars in taxation. Death duties were legal. There is no obligation to deliver justice to a dead person.
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Monday, 1 February 2010 6:50:22 AM
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Living people or dead people, which ones are you. When you go to the morgue, you no longer have a care in the world. Provided that is that you became a Christian before you got there. As compulsory Christians we should not be being treated as being dead. However because we are assumed to be dead, by the nine gormless satanic States that we have allowed by default to be created, in total disregard of the provisions of the Holy Bible and Australian Constitution, we are again under Roman Pagan Rule.

The Roman Empire had multifarious Gods. We have multifarious Gods, Godless Gods, who work on the assumption that we are already dead, and that our Estates are at the disposal of the State as if we were conquered people, and not freemen and women. These Godless Gods, are the Judges and Magistrates appointed by the various States, including the Australian Government to sit in the morgues they have created to strip our assets from us, by arbitrary fiat. As in Roman and Turkish times, ( for those of you who are Greeks) the government is bribable. The Judges and Magistrates are either bribed by the State with munificent salaries, up to $7,000 a week for a High Court Justice, and up to $4000 for a Magistrate, or persuaded to sell a judgment:The 30 pieces of silver for Judas Iscariot, to betray Jesus Christ.

The Holy Bible bans all this garbage. Jury trial was required for every living person, provided they were protestant in England. We, the members of the Commonwealth of Israel ( Ephesians 2:12) decided to make Australia the land of Almighty God in the South. Israel is not that Jewish State in the Middle East, but the name given to Jacob, after he wrestled with Almighty God at Pinuel. We called it the Commonwealth of Australia.

Where do these radical ideas come from. None other than Jesus Christ himself. The wonderful leader who won over the world, simply by His ideas, and the Holy Bible in which people who love Almighty God have had their adventures recorded
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Monday, 1 February 2010 7:27:07 AM
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People continue to miss the trees for being lost in the bushes:

The big problem ISN'T that we have to pay taxes, it isn't WHAT taxes we pay and it isn't how MUCH tax we pay - the big problem is what's done with the money and the vast amount of wastage involved in the process of collection and processing.

Until those ACTUAL issues are dealt with all the rest is just so much esoteric rubbish.
Posted by Spinner, Monday, 1 February 2010 8:38:04 AM
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