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King Bill?

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Pete Vex and others.

The history of the law is fascinating but is as I posted to Legal eagle, it's creation, construction, implementation and all about maintaining the power status quo. Be that some notion that tugging the fetlock to JC supposed authority, some hierarchical birth right 'betters', the wealthy therefore powerful and the practitioners. The latter are the self appointed, unofficial gate keepers. They operate in a world of precedents, unnecessarily complicated contorted definitions and Black Letter law. Which has little or nothing to do with equity/fairness/justice in any practical sense.

the law is a pseudo (limited/flawed) intellectual pursuit imposed on an emotional based personage.

The point is it (the law et al) doesn't account for the human factor and as such it its foundations are built on sand.

Rather than take that into account it has evolved a structure/architecture of successive layers and part fixes, Bad DIY tinkering. Therefore, continuing the building metaphor, it doesn't surprise me that bit keep falling off injuring those who *nominally* it *supposed* to protect. A bit like an Indian boarding house for the poor, it there for the benefit of the landlord not the tenants.

PS Hillsong etc is just another, unrepresentative, power hungry corporation that hides behind the screen of religion.

In one city area there were 5 pro development councilors and one state MP all linked to the same 'church'. now there are 1 CR and a different MP in another electorate (same church) but still in the same city's boundaries. BTW none either campaigned or advertises the philosophical agenda link or funding sources they all share.
Posted by examinator, Sunday, 24 January 2010 12:29:18 PM
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Attacks on Hillsong and other Churches are misdirected. The real problem is the Church of Satan and the latter day demons. These latter day demons, are not the poor Policemen called upon to enforce the law, but the anti Christian Judges and Magistrates who really govern Australia. These people are in reality lawbreakers every day they sit without a jury, but they will not and do not accept any authority but their own. They are lawbreakers because every day they sit without a jury, or sentence someone to lose their licence or go to jail, they are breaking the law of the Constitution.

These latter day demons have no respect for any of the Parliaments in Australia that take our money and give us law, but do not insist all their laws are obeyed. The Commonwealth is the worst offender. Because every major Party in that Parliament has a State branch, they have instructed the Australian Federal Police not to enforce Commonwealth law except as a political tool. We thought Brendan O’Connor was different, but so far there has been no change.

The Trade Practices Act 1974 by its S 45 banned the Church of Latter Day Demons, by introducing a National Competition Policy in 1995. S 45 bans the exclusion of people like Belly from the working of the courts. As an Act making the Commonwealth an inclusive organisation, it would apply to courts if they were logical places. The last restrictive trade practice is that employed by lawyers.

If s 45 Trade Practices Act 1974 was applied, it would allow anyone to appoint any counsel they pleased. Free choice of representation in court, would end an enormous amount of injustice, and the application of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and Trade Practices Act 1974 to the business of delivering justice, would see the hopes and aspirations of Paul Keating’s government realised. There is a You Tube presentation circulating denigrating Tony Abbott. If TA was prepared to guarantee that the Constitution will be followed, as Rudd did, and keep his word, he could just win
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Sunday, 24 January 2010 3:26:57 PM
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Without doubt PV you are a bright man, bogged in a swamp of your own making.
Christian? my history as a follower of God was a much less heated one, I gave no power to God in government or law.
He said, in the book I no longer believe in, give Cesar his dues.
Crown is a term, nothing else not anything to do with Christianity.
remember please the first church IN England was thrown out, by miss use of power from a monarch.
PV in every breath bloke, you scream in my ear, this is why we MUST/WILL one day become a republic.
Use that education, that brain, to understand your thought that Rudd MAY JUST WIN? is silly, given all your concerns, given the ETS debate, given Abbott spoiling tactics and slightly higher polls Rudd, will Be judged the best candidate and increase his majority.
I have no doubt both Rudd and Abbott are true Christians.
And no fear judges and magistrates are evil, out of touch non Representative yes for sure.
I look beyond the Queen and her consort for the best in the royal family William, his brother and yes their dad are about top of the heap, but ok to drink with have a bar b Q but bow?
come bloke fear not,,, saying we are proud to be Aussies, nothing against England but as a brother or sister not mum, Will not make the sky fall.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 24 January 2010 4:03:42 PM
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Nope, Pete V. is not yanking our chain at all.
A true believer is a sight to behold Peter. Good luck to you.

I have changed my mind. Good Prince William does not appear to be a very fervent believer in Godly matters, so I think he would make an excellent future King and Governor General of Australia!
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 24 January 2010 8:02:16 PM
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The Commonwealth no longer bothers to affix a Royal Identifier on its Legislation. By S 22 Australian Courts Act 1828 this is illegal. By their gross negligence in this respect, there have been created another eight illegitimate and illegal regimes in Australia.

This failure to accept the difference between a corporation and an individual, is the root cause of much evil. Victoria has reproduced the Statute that gave individuals equal rights to the Royal Family. It is the Habeas Corpus Act 1640 16 Charles 1 Ch X.. In it this passage appears.

Be it likewise declared and enacted by authority of this present parliament, that neither his Majesty not his privy council, have or ought to have any jurisdiction, power or authority , by English bill, petition, articles, libel or any other arbitrary way whatsoever, to examine draw into question, determine or dispose of the lands , tenements, hereditaments, goods or chattels of any of the subjects of this kingdom, but the same ought to be tried and determined in the ordinary courts of justice , and by the ordinary course of law.

We have suffered under the erroneous presumption by all Parliaments that they are Sovereign. They are corporations subject to the will of every member of the body corporate. When we delegate our sovereignty, as the children of Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, to any Parliament, we have reserve powers, (currently denied) to have the laws made by any Parliament tried according to law.

As Subjects of Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second resident in Australia, by allegiance to Her, we are entitled to regard ourselves as members of Her Commonwealth family. This passage casts upon the Crown the obligations contained in S 22 Australian Courts Act 1828 to obtain a Royal Identifier the same as that affixed to the Constitution, so that the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 is given effect. The failure if Charles I to observe this law, led to his demise in 1649.

It has led to the demise of the Commonwealth as an effective legal entity. Long Live the Queen
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 10:16:21 AM
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I am currently in Victoria, and meeting some fascinating people. Like New South Wales there are enormous numbers of people quietly protesting the lawlessness of the Victorian Corporation. Yesterday I was in a Magistrates Court with one such protester. There are an estimated half million like minded people in Victoria, and a few who are starting to assert their sovereign right, held in common with Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, the lawful and legislated Sovereign of Australia, to not be put upon as if they were a corporation.

A corporation is a child of the Parliament. Because it is such an entity, and has no soul as such, a corporation has no legal rights except those granted by Statute. We are children of Almighty God, created in His Image, or so Hillsong Church and the Anglican Church teaches, and since we are such privileged people, we are equal to the sovereign in every respect.

The only authority which is greater than that of a Sovereign is Almighty God himself. One of Hillsong’s songs is In Your Freedom I shall live. They are long on the Holy Bible but in some ways short on the practical application of its teachings. They teach that as part of the Holy Family, or Royal Family if you like, by blessing others we are blessed ourselves. Jesus Christ was the greatest civil engineer of all time, and his teachings, adopted by the English as law, have ensured 800 years stability.

The Sheriff and Police in Victoria are confounded by these protesters. When the protesters ask for a valid Royal Identifier to be affixed to any court order or warrant, and shown to them, as sovereign individuals, the authorities leave mumbling to themselves. A valid Royal Identifier can only be affixed after a proper proceeding according to law.

Peter Spencer, John Wilson, and the myriad of their supporters who are scheduled to converge on Canberra on the 2nd February 2010 should be making it clear to the Federal Politicians that without a Valid Royal Identifier on their efforts, they are taking our money under false pretences
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 10:39:40 AM
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