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Cornflower with respect, do you truly think?
Truly?
That I do not understand and agree with every word you say.
JMMC sorry if that is not your right name.
Let us talk, in debate, you I the bloke down the road, we should give value to others views.
If we expect to be heard/seen/read/considered true debate values all views.
We, you I every one, it is a human fault, tend to give much more value to our own ideas and thoughts.
We, gee me often chuckle and put down others views.
I understand your concept, it is not new, it is not just your invention, I disagree with it, totally.
With great confidence I say most Australians do too, that one day we, all of us from country's all over the world, will both be a Republic and still tied by history to England.
Tell me Friend when did this country, any person in this country, last refer to England's privy council?
Do you know I get it wrong, have said things I no longer agree with?
And things on reflection I did not think then.
But I learn something new every day,
I value all input, until I see the poster gives value only to his/her own words.
And so very often that closed mind is also very wrong.
PTB all is forgiven one of us is wrong about privy council tell us who please.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 23 January 2010 5:11:53 AM
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I waited. I love Belly because he is a man of principle. Rough, perhaps uneducated, sometimes illogical but nonetheless a man of principle. However when the basic understanding of what Royal means is displayed by so many so often, and is wrong, I almost cry.

Royal means of Almighty God. Almighty God should be the guiding light of every country on earth, and when Royals forgot Almighty God they perished. Only a few Royals remain, there is one in Denmark with an Australian Queen, and an English Royal Family, subject at all times to Almighty God. The Australian Constitution incorporates Christianity into the Law of Australia. It does so with Royal Assent and registration by the Master of the Rolls in the Law Register of England.

Only a regular Church attendee can read the Holy Bible and react with fellow Christians in concert. Belly probably never goes to church anymore. Most of the few who post here probably do not either. I have been to Hillsong Conference, where 20,000 Christians gather every year to hear the Word of God. It is awe inspiring as is their Men’s Conference, where 5000 plus men gather in a men only conference. The women’s conference attracts many more than that.

The thing is that even Hillsong does not realize how important it is to educate people on what the Australian Constitution really does. It was a pact or Deed of Agreement by all Christians to create a Commonwealth. In Quick and Garran, the definitive Book on the Constitution, it is stated that the word Commonwealth comes out of Ephesians 2 Verse 12. Jesus Christ invented democracy. Democracy is not Courts and Judges, it is courts and judges, and S 2 Judiciary Act 1903 reflects this fact.

The Australian Government is not the same as the Commonwealth Government. The Australian Government Solicitor is not a Commonwealth Solicitor, but a private firm owned by the Australian Government. If you want an education get your butt into a church, and read the Bible under the guidance of an honest Pastor. Most churches have good ones, some don’t
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Saturday, 23 January 2010 9:01:11 AM
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Thank you Belly. You said: PTB all is forgiven one of us is wrong about privy council tell us who please.

The Queens Privy Council in Australia is the Parliament of the Commonwealth. A privy was once a small shed down in the back yard, but words and their meaning matter. Privy also means from Noah Websters Dictionary, Private; as belonging to or pertaining to some particular person, esp with reference to a sovereign. It expands it further; law; one who has a legally recognized interest or responsibility in an estate or transaction. This of course is the same as in the Big 20 Volume Oxford.

Those Liberal Party mongrels you so regularly berate, changed the Constitution without a referendum in New South Wales by making lawyers the local parish priest, and a panel of nine lawyers the ultimate council of law in New South Wales. That is by S 6 of the Supreme Court Act 1970. It is not a Privy Council, but is full of the other meaning and what goes into a privy. The first Liberal Party change to the Australian Constitution was in South Australia in 1927, when the privies to Her Majesty, the judges referred to in S 79 Constitution were excluded from civil Courts. A Judge became God in South Australia.

You Mr Belly are a privy to Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second. When summonsed to serve on a jury you are supposed to make law, in a way that is absolute. Her Majesty’s privies were required to both set the sentence and decide guilt or innocence. On www.community-law.info you will find this law.

When you vote you vote for the Australian Privy Council in the Parliament of the Commonwealth. There can only be One Privy Council in Australia. All others are subservient to that, but your hero has been listening to the wrong people. He has not sacked the criminals who have robbed us of our Christian heritage, and he has 30 lawyers in his Privy Council in the House of Representatives. Even that privy council cannot overrule a juries verdict
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Saturday, 23 January 2010 9:37:55 AM
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Empty vessels make the most sound. I am moved to quote a proverb. 8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles even all the judges of the earth. That word judges is the same as that in S 79 Constitution.

In the book of Ruth, the first sentence reads, Now it came to pass in the days when judges ruled, that there was famine in the land. A Judge sitting alone rules Australia. He is either a Judge or Magistrate.

When the English chucked out the Roman Catholic Church in 1533, they redistributed all the land owned by that Church, roughly half of England to the people. It was not so he could remarry that Henry VIII threw out the Roman Catholic Church, it was so that he could redistribute the land they owned and worked with English slaves, to those working the land. The English loved their King for that reason. He still has a use in Australia. We are seeing theft by State Governments and even the Australian Government does it.

They can steal because we are no longer educated in Christian principles. Judges hear matters but do not listen. That is why the Holy Bible separated the power to judge from the power to administer the law, in John 5 Verses 22 and 23. Look it up for yourself.

Jesus Christ did not want to be a King in the conventional sense. He wanted to be above all Kings, and all Princes, but only the English adopted this as law. The Roman Catholic Church had an Emperor in Rome. For 800 years they have tried to undermine the English Monarchy. The English tried a Republic from 1649-1660, and the ravages of Cromwell were so bad in the country, that they restored the Monarchy, and in 1688, made all Kings subject to the Holy Bible by the Coronation Oath 1688 ( Imp).

Every bit of freehold land is dependant on the Australian Sovereign. Abolish Her and lose your land.. Already they are stealing that land and KR wants to take your property in money with a new Tax too
Posted by Peter Vexatious, Saturday, 23 January 2010 10:18:46 AM
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Peter Vexatious,
Who are you?
You must be living in a vacuum, We in Oz live in a secular society,
church and government are not one, if this is the nonsense Hillsong are teaching - God help us
Posted by JMCC, Saturday, 23 January 2010 12:25:04 PM
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Dear Belly,
Section 74 of our Constitution reads:-

"74. No appeal shall be permitted to the Queen in Council from a decision of the High Court upon any question, howsoever arising, as to the limits inter se of the Constitutional powers of the Commonwealth and those of any State or States, or as to the limits inter se of the Constitutional powers of any two or more States, unless the High Court shall certify that the Question is one which ought to be determined by Her Majesty in Council.

The High Court may so certify if satisfied that for any special reason the certificate should be granted, and thereupon an appeal shall lie to Her Majesty in Council on the question without further leave.

Except as provided in this section, this Constitution shall not impair any right which the Queen may be pleased to exercise by virtue of Her Royal prerogative to grant special leave of appeal from the High Court to Her Majesty in Council. The Parliament may make laws limiting the matters in which such leave may be asked, but proposed laws containing any such limitation shall be reserved by the Governor-General for Her Majesty's pleasure."
Posted by JMCC, Saturday, 23 January 2010 12:39:57 PM
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