Thanks every one I am staying , ignoring the troll but still interested in other forums.

Belly, I’m a bit perturbed that you haven’t responded to any of the direct questions that I asked of you.

I don’t understand how you can keep posting and stating your disagreement while refusing to be drawn into any debate! You've expressed considerable frustration here. And I express considerable frustration over this.

<< Now Ludwig, your understanding of politics does not match your knowledge of Australian trees. >>

Quite true. I do profess to be something of an expert of the Australian flora, and to be nowhere near an expert on politics. But Belly, a person doesn't have to be any sort of expert to express their views on OLO.

You are obviously a very well-respected poster on this forum. Glad to see that you are hangin’ around.

Belly, mate, you have to thicken that skin. After all, you taught the libs about this type of stuff, in the first lpace.

Your lot spent years referring to the previous PM as "the rodent". Did you really ecpect that the other lot would not return the compliment, when the time came?

You spent years, with a far from truthful, but clever, campaign, trying to get rid of the "honest John" image. Did you expect this concept was your exclusive prerogative?

Now we have a bloke, who's very name describes him to a T, & you get shirty when others use it. In your private thoughts, even you must know, he's a pretty KRuddy bloke.

You also have that silly girl who appears to have dropped an R from her name. Penny Wrong suit her so well, don't youi think?

Most of us, in our hearts, do feel sorry for you, having to pretend you admire that pair, but of course, we'er never going to admit to it, ever.

Oscar, it’s a bit of a rude awakening to be slammed for simply putting up your views for sensible debate. The same thing happened to me with my very first post in 2005. And it happened many times in the early days. But it is rare these days.

I’ve had an almighty hoo haa with our Mr Morgan that went on for a long time. But thank goodness that is behind us now. These days we just let each other be, with no digs to the ribs, hey CJ (:>).

I read the rubbish he writes and roll my eyes…and leave it at that.

OO oo oo ooww…pretend I didn’t write that!! ( :>#

Um, yes, well…just about no digs to the ribs!

Oscar, very good to see you offer a truce to Belly..and very disappointing to see him call you a troll after that. However, he is indeed a good OLO contributor, who has just been quite out of character on this thread.

I encourage you to stick with OLO.

Belly,
You must really be unwell. An old stager like you thinking of giving up the fight. I could not believe it, you are too thick skinned and have had too many stoushes to simply give in.

You and I have disagreed on many things, but I see you as a practical bloke and respect your opinion, even when I disagree. There is nothing put on or pretentious about you. I just wish more Labor party members were like you, but sadly I think not. No wonder you have fights within your party.

I have little respect for either major party, but I could have a beer and discussion with you anytime.

Oscar,
I do not agree with you about your reasoning that Aussies say climate change won't effect them on their life time.

I reckon Aussies recognize that AGW is not proven and is a religion to some. Most are sceptical about it, as I am, and want proof before doing anything. The government has made no effort to explain the ETS, or how it would reduce our CO2 emmissions. In addition it is a tax and will cost us plenty and doubt that our efforts will make any difference to the world. That is what Aussies think about AGW and the ETS.

Gday all, well again and first thing thanks to those who supported me.
Hasbeen re read the thread, please do, look at my quotes, see the one I left out a bit. surely you or anyone can see , it was my intention to highlight the fact my intelligence had been questioned, the not to bright quote was me, in my view it had clearly been stated I could not find my letter box.In truth being pulled up for my posts, was in my view a bit one sided, remember both sides had offended.
And only one ran to father to complain.
And review that post that the poster himself thought should be deleted.
Do not waste your time OTG never ever again will we converse.
Ludwig.
Rudd why I like him,
He said sorry, restored my pride in my country.
He does truly want a fairer country
He got rid of work choices.
He has tight controls in place, his cabinet will never be infected by the grubs that infest NSW Labor.
He has plans for this country's future, we rarely have seen such good polling.
You surely having said you know less about politics that trees understand I , every Australian can write ten pages of things I do not like about him?
But I can write three to one about the things I do like.
Look, understand, current Liberal party directions.
Can you see the boil that has been the extremist right has now gained control?
The problem took control not the answer.
Write me ten things you like about directions of the opposition.
My thick skin was penetrated by just how many times things have gone unchallenged , from me and others, but a newby who said he would not complain got instant action.
regards