Oh and another thing.

C J Bogan ( Yes i owe you that one after several insults i have recieved from you........But unlike some i will not report you......i will play the game as best i can )

You say

'' This may well be the basis for the entrenched and ignorant climate denialism that we're currently seeing, but it's precisely why our government needs to act decisively and comprehensively on environmental issues like population and climate change, which are intrinsically linked. I agree that most people will probably act out of short-term self interest, with little consideration for the kind of country and world that we're bequeathing to our children.''

Do you live in Australia or what?

Climate change will be best for Australians when the the Australian corporate intersts say it is best.........and not before.

You see i dont know what part of this nation you live in but corporate Australia run this nation.....not the government that we elect..........and certainly not us.

There you go.........a debate.

Start typing......... dont insult me...... but post a counter argument against my staement and back it up with fact to prove i lie.........but dont insult me.........debate me.

And next time i will call you by your proper name.

Silence from you....or anyone will show that you cant prove i lie.

Hi Oscar,

I've come across an article that may
be of interest by Michelle Grattan,
The Age, Nov. 21 2009, entitled:
"Huge Tests Ahead For Rudd."

http://www.the age.com.au/national/huge-tests-ahead-for-rudd-20091120_iqyg.html

It gives a more balanced account of our PM.

Personally I don't feel that we can criticize him too
much until he's had at least two full terms in office.
He doesn't duck when things go wrong and
he does take on tough issues. It's Thanks to his
Government's quick and decisive response that's
currently shielding our economy from recession.
The Opposition is calling from the Economic
Stimulus Program to be wound back. That would be
dangerous according to financial experts when the
Australian Economy is still poised at a fragile stage.

An early exit from the Economic Stimulus Programs could
postpone or set back the jobs recovery from the global
financial crisis. Winding back the Stimulus prematurely
as the Coalition is proposing could send the economy into
a second downturn.

Our debt according to world standards is relatively small.

Anyway, you might find it amusing to read the following
article as well on Tony Abbott, for a bit of balance:

http://newmatilda.com/2009/12/03/abbott-reason-season
"Tony Abbott Is The Reason For The Season by
Ben Pobjie, 3 Dec. 2009.

Dear Oscar,

Sorry I mis-typed the Michelle Grattan website -
on our PM. Here it is again:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/huge-tests-ahead-for-rudd-20091120-iqyg.html

Thanks Foxy.

I am reading it now.

Oscar sorry old mate I have found nothing in your posts to agree with, any of them.
You put in print a complaint about me, then in a totally disjointed way say you will not complain.
While I have some respect for Ludwig, you have to earn it, an unlikely task, sorry honesty matters.
Now who said Rudd should not face criticism?
You and Ludwig are free to say what you wish, but please do not make it up.
No one said he is always right, see my warts and all quotes.
However fear? do not kid your self bloke not of any thing or anyone ever.
And not very bright? well you started that rubbish I will leave it to you but tie your dog up.
If he/she leaves home the average family IQ will drop ten points.
Ludwig, can you not see none of us is always right, just maybe your view of Rudd is wrong.
Knowing he is most likely to win this coming election with ease do you value your thoughts more than voters?

Hey belly

You say
''And not very bright? well you started that rubbish I will leave it to you but tie your dog up.
If he/she leaves home the average family IQ will drop ten points.''

Go ''....'' yourself!

Sorry moderator i know that you will remove this post but i am sick of being insulted.
I thought online opinion was just that......... free and open opinion.
Its just insult after insult.

Don't cancel my account it will not happewn again.I know that i should not let these low birth people get to me or should worry about them trying to meddle in the affairs of kings.............but every post i have had people insult me.

But at least leave it on long enouth for this idiot to see it.