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Racial voilence set to explode

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Oscar,
I disagree with your analisis of the racial violence situation.

Unless you are deliberately trying to stir, you have simply accepted what the early media reports said about the attacks on Indian students in Sydney and Melbourne. By ommission of the attackers ethnicity in was indicated that the attackers were white anglo Aussies. Later info revealed that, mainly, the attackers were Lebs, in Sydney, and Africians, in Melbourne, and the motives were robbery. No doubt racist slurs were made during the robberies, but they were after the students Ipods and laptops mainly.

I was very dissappointed that our politicians and police allowed the implication of racist attacks by ommission of ethnicity.

I follow the news fairly closely and have not seen anything about 'white supremist' gangs or groups for a long time.

There have been instances of clashes between different ethnic groups in Western Sydney. Asian and Leb gangs fight from time to time and even different Asian gangs clash. Last May there were some serious clashes between Sri Lankans involving up to 50 blokes and included a home invasion where bones were broken and acid was poured over a bloke. This happened after the defeat of the Tamils and nothing since so, hopefully, it has died down.

I would not be surprized if the Croats and Serbs had another clash at the tennis at this years Open. I could be wrong, but I know of no other rising tensions.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 12 December 2009 1:21:21 PM
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Banjo,

I don't differentiate between ethnicities if they have Australian passports or entitled to them, they are Aussies...full stop.
I do however, agree that OTG's analysis is flawed.
I'm old enough to have seen all this before, and sadly, we'll see it again with the next lot of noticeably different faces.

All
I would throw in a wild card and suggest that the attitudes in OTG's post are really referred anger/fear. In short emotional scapegoating.

I find any argument (particularly racial), that attempts to project the extremes as grounds for a generalized opinion no more than prejudice in a different form.

Either way it lacks perspective, objectivity and indeed seems to be either STIRING or unthought through.
Posted by examinator, Saturday, 12 December 2009 7:42:50 PM
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The one thing I just can not get me head around with 'multi culturalisum' is the fact that we are inviting religious infussed violence into our country.

While there are many religious people within the 'natural Australian population, you would be hard pressed to find just one who would die for their religion.

So, why bring these thousand + year old cultures to our shores, when we know they will bring trouble.

If you wish to come to Australia, you must respect our way of life and want to be an Australian I say. Otherwise, go somewhere else or stay home!

Try going to their country and living our lives and see how far you get! You will be lucky if you don't get shot dead.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 12 December 2009 8:58:22 PM
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Dear Examinator,

''All
I would throw in a wild card and suggest that the attitudes in OTG's post are really referred anger/fear. In short emotional scapegoating.

I find any argument (particularly racial), that attempts to project the extremes as grounds for a generalized opinion no more than prejudice in a different form.''

Trying to bring me out of the closet as some racial hypocrite hiding behind an illusion.

The only anger/fear that I have is from people like you turning everything into a racial argument, and that’s exactly what you have done.
One of my greatest crusades is for Aboriginal rights and when I finish my degree, I hope to turn that into a reality. I just hope I can achieve action within real philosophical debate without the interference from hobby psychologists such as you pretending to know all about everyone and their secret fears.
Well then I must be really racist to put myself through years of schooling to act on my ‘’ secret fears’’, or should I say contradict them.

Gee, I must be revealing your hidden anger towards us all.
What would you say about the post from REHCTUB, would you call him a racist with secret fears for this opinion, which by the way is the opinion of the majority.
We must be one big racist country then.

‘’ The one thing I just can not get me head around with 'multi culturalism' is the fact that we are inviting religious infused violence into our country.

While there are many religious people within the 'natural Australian population, you would be hard pressed to find just one who would die for their religion.

So, why bring these thousand + year old cultures to our shores, when we know they will bring trouble.

If you wish to come to Australia, you must respect our way of life and want to be an Australian I say. Otherwise, go somewhere else or stay home!

Try going to their country and living our lives and see how far you get! You will be lucky if you don't get shot dead.’’
Posted by oscar the grouch, Sunday, 13 December 2009 9:07:07 AM
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Oh yes and i forgot.

Dear BANJO.

You said

'' I follow the news fairly closely and have not seen anything about 'white supremist' gangs or groups for a long time ''.

You must not follow the news as well as you think because if you did you would know that there was a recent white supremist group meeting in melbourne that was plastered on all the news services and in all the main papers,even with photos.
This metting has something to do with the Australian discussion board of Stormfront.

I just love a good debate with people that know nothing about what they say they do.

To use a line from Al Bundy to sum up.

''Im a havin fun''.
Posted by oscar the grouch, Sunday, 13 December 2009 9:16:49 AM
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Examinator

That is a strange way to define race or ethnicity..if you have an Australian passport you are what race then? Australian? I have noticed this excuse for non-whites but will not buy it until it also includes whites. Otherwise it is well..racist!

Also the opening post mentioned the attacks on Hindu and implied this was a sign of white supremecy so it was incorrect assumption so Banjo's post was valid in context.
Posted by TheMissus, Sunday, 13 December 2009 10:41:11 AM
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