An example.

The dwarf races. Some dwarfs had a laugh and earned some money in some harmless fun. The PC brigade comes out as it is offensive. So dwarf cannot earn a few bob because it offends those that then continue on the stage a "world class event", The Melbourne Cup. This world class event that has morphed over the years to be all about money. World class events are offensive to many of us, does that not count anymore? The crass display of wealth. Where ladies are showing off hats that cost more than the average punters weekly wage? Where entry fee discriminates against the average family? Same as the AFL grand final, an event for the wealthy to mix and mingle, not for the die hard footie fan anymore. This is not offensive? That breakfast on the bridge, 1 million dollars for breakfast? Not offensive to old age pensioners that try to scramble together enough for a packet of cereal? Now more and more the Sydney fireworks are for paying guests only. Not offensive?

Everytime the working class get behind a tradition it is stolen along with our politicl aprty. That is offensive.

I don't know, I think we are offended at all the wrong things. Maybe we should bring into fashion jokes about the silly hat brigade and how shallow it all is. Wonder what PC would have to say about that.

H has been selectively reading my posts again ;-)... from a philosophical perspective there is no such thing as an absolute, universal Right or Wrong. They are determined by societal culture and religious mores.

However, as usual, he confuses the level on which he wants to discuss.
From practical day to day level Foxy is correct. I can't see the point of trying to argue in a court his point as a defence.

His argument labours under the contradictory assumption that absolutes exist in a societal situation i.e. The right (sic) of freedom of speech.

In reality all "rights" are for all practical sense and reason are conditional as being aspirational and logically unattainable. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get nearer to an absolute as possible.

To make the point a number of supporting posters throw pejoratively intended left/right, PC labels around like a flower girl on LSD. Asserting an absolute link with these labels with consideration, compassion, common sense, enlightened self interest and just good manners. Which is demonstrably inconsistent, with their own STATED values, none would admit to the antithesis of the above behaviours.

Therefore it boils down to these posters demanding to be the arbiters of societal mores and what constitutes plain ordinary manners, in order to avoid the consequential societal opprobrium for their preferred (race to the bottom) behaviour.

The questions that gives me amusement are "why"? Easier ? Less effort on their part? To claim unwarranted but desired superiority?

To that end it is a sad truism that each successive generation tend to both believe THEY have the ULTIMATE answers rather than building on the positive achievements and avoiding the same mistakes of the past.

BTW H you are what you do, Foxy is more than competent to assess your depth. Simply put, If you murder some one you are a murderer, if you are superficial and boorish then that is you too. It is Your potential that is the undiscovered territory, which I have hope for.

Examinator says "if you murder someone you are a murderer, if you are superficial and boorish then that is you too".

Why are you making judgments and absolute statements examinator?

One man's murderer may be another man's freedom fighter, one man's superficial and boorish nature in your eyes may be considered witty and interesting by someone else.

haha pericles you are giving me a big smile on my face.

'To do otherwise would lead to total disintegration in a very short space of time.'

I'm holding up pretty well.

You do seem quite fascinated with me, I'm loving the attention.

So which is it? Have I transferred my lefty leanings to 'others' so as to put them (myself) down, or have I created a super righty caricature because I just really want to be hated for my right wing leanings? Or do I just assess the political leaning of posters and say anything to get a reaction?

By the way you're not very clever, just paying more attention. I admitted/alluded to some of your theories in the suits thread. I like to have multiple themes, and who could resist but to add in some of one's self, as writers do, but is it a true reflection or just used for effect. Do I use the theme to reveal or do I change to suit the theme, playing a part within my Houellebecq part? It's fun isn't it.

pontificator reckons I'm a narcissist, Fractelle reckons I'm a sociopath, you reckon I'm full of transferrence, CJ reckons I'm dysfunctional. It's amazing the amount of free psychological advice and interest I can generate. You should all have a conference!

pontificator,

'it boils down to these posters demanding to be the arbiters of societal mores and what constitutes plain ordinary manners'
No way would I take away yours and Foxy's job of OLO etiquette police!

'Foxy is more than competent to assess your depth'
I've never met her. Do you think you really know Tom Cruise? John Howard? Really? I thought you were smarter than that.

'It is Your potential that is the undiscovered territory, which I have hope for.'
I have hope for your potential too. Though I doubt it will be discovered until you wipe the veneer of patronising arrogance you carry around as a shield. I honestly really fear for any poor kid who has been counselled by you.

Missus,

I'm starting to really like you.

Smithy456 “What the self righteous right wing”

Actually the "left" have the monopoly on “smug self-righteousness”. We, on the right are more content to paddle our own canoes… and leave the self-righteous left and their acolytes of political correctness back behind, in our wake.

“The right sees their own attitudes and social norms as natural behaviour that's not concocted in any way”

That is because I do not have to consider you in any of them..

Whereas, “the left” needs to form a committee to advise it on the correct way to form a committee (RSI wrist claim).

“Houellebecq and Col Rouge show by their contributions here that they firmly believe in and practice political correctness”

I believe in the rule of law. Maybe your self-righteous insight allows you greater knowledge to me than of that which I know myself… but be advised, “political correctness” does not get a mention on my list of “must-be”

For instance, I still call a chairman “chairman”, not “chair person” and I open doors for ladies (manners do matter) but see no merit in the “affirmative action” twaddle, which seeks to guarantee there are equal numbers of men and women in parliament or on company boards.

“Basically with them it's a case of "I'm right and if you don't agree with me then you're wrong". That's life.”

Again, you are wrong and you are merely projecting your own limited comprehension to matters beyond your experience or understanding, -
It is a trait common among ‘lefties’.

It is not that I am right.. it is that I have faith in my own assessments and bear the consequences of my own errors which improves the probability of my “rightness”.

And regarding examinators “from a philosophical perspective there is no such thing as an absolute, universal Right or Wrong.”

What a load of sanctimonious tosh.

From any perspective, philosophical or otherwise, the grand proctologist must rate as the absolute of pomposity, albeit in a an ever changing universe.

Oh dearie, dearie me Col. You're sooooooooooooo politically correct. Almost your every phrase, every thought, every attitude just exudes political correctness. You're just as self righteously politically correct as the self righteous politically correct left. The difference is you practice right wing political dogma and correctness, whereas the left practices left wing political dogma and correctness.

You're just as much a non-thinking, non-aware, follow the dogma, sanctimonious old fart as any pathetic, politically correct leftie. Col, you're pathetic; almost everything you write here is straight out of the Righteous Right Bible. Learn to think for yourself buddy.