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Posted by D.Funkt, Monday, 19 October 2009 6:18:23 PM
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You have failed us, D. Funkt.
By adding "sarcasm alert" to an otherwise hilarious and sadly accurate post, you have deprived us of the spectacle of half a dozen posters completely failing to recognise the sarcasm and attacking you for it. I sentence you to a polygamous relationship with Boy George and Julian Clary. Posted by Sancho, Monday, 19 October 2009 8:59:42 PM
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Lol D.Funkt! I enjoyed your' brand of sarcasm.
You have made many valid points against the silly notions put out there against gay marriage. The same can also be said for how many Australians feel about the subject. I for one do not feel at all threatened by who marries who, or who has sex with whoever. It is no one else's business. However, good luck to you when some of our resident God-fearing lads and lasses get on to this topic! Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 19 October 2009 9:55:27 PM
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I have also heard the 'evolutionary argument' in that if we allow gays to marry then they'll breed and take over and that will be the end of the species.
There's just one problem with this idea that I can't quite put my finger on at the moment but I know it's there somewhere. Posted by Bugsy, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:23:16 PM
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I want to know what the other 8 are.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:37:05 PM
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Dear Bugsy,
As this is a clean and respectable forum I think it might be best if you kept your finger off it. ;) Posted by csteele, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:04:04 PM
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Dear D Funkt,
Truer words you have never spoke. Stay earth bound and you will see the destruction of everything you hold dear. To be present in the body you are subject to the laws at play in the world. The earth is negative and all in it. Even your very thoughts are affected. Thank God we have been given choice. Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 6:13:36 AM
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It appears you've reeled one in anyway :) Clearly, the answer for those who have problems with gay marriage is space travel.
Indeed, it may well be possible in the future for all the homophobes to be blasted off into outer space, to boldly go where no gay person has been before. Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 6:56:26 AM
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CJ I don't have the full or official list but I'll try and put down those extra items I remember.
- Gay marriage causes natural disasters (the natural disasters whcih are not caused by abortion or low church attendance) - Every sperm is precious. God gets very upset when people waste sperm and gays clearly waste it. This is one of my all time favourite reasons. - During the numerous hours some homophobes spend thinking about anal sex the conflict between fascination and the yikky factor causes distress. - The hairy legged type of lesbian is just wrong, the young pretty ones are not so bad if you don't get caught watching online videos of them. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 7:28:14 AM
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The anal sex is fine with me, I just wish some gay people wouldn't be so camp and theatrical. I find it annoying. I don't see why camp people cant just talk normally. I know many gay people who manage to talk normally, and it would never occur to these guys to act so weird. So why are camp people like that. Lesbian women don't talk like Sam Backo.
Though Julian Clary is pretty funny. Graham Norton isn't. They should be able to get married. Then we'd have the valid decision to NOT be married recognised by the state. I really sympathise with them, as I think us poor de-factos should march for the right to not be married off by the Guvment. Maybe we can march with the Gays next time. Actually I should be able to sell my license to marry to a gay person who wants to. Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 9:22:40 AM
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We Christians don't care if you're gay - we just don't want our kids taught that it's OK to be gay (just like atheists don't want their kids to be taught it's ok to be Christian). So, go ahead and advance gay rights, but just do it in a way that doesn't impact on the lives of us.
Maybe atheists and gays should ask the government to set up a new type of marriage (e.g. a state union contract/ license) that is completely separate from Christian marriage. This way the core values and beliefs of both Christians and gays/atheists will not be offended, and this change will actually be sustainable. Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 10:57:03 AM
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Ah, welbek. Some contributions here are a bit like Kopi Luwak coffee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak You’ve got to paddle around in a lot of poo to find the delicacy.
Various christian right groups are famously looking for ways to promote the value of marriage http://marriageweek.org.au/ Creating a market for marriage licences sounds ideal. If the gummint were to limit the number of available licences to around the same as the refugee intake quota (13,500 in 2008/9 http://www.budget.gov.au/2008-09/content/bp2/html/expense-18.htm ), it would not only raise the value of marriage, the handy little revenue source would help cover the cost of those pesky boat people. Finally a level playing field for marriage. And think of the cultural benefits: - Televised marriage licence auctions! - "Australian Bridal" - "Who wants to be a groom?" - "The farmer pleads with his rich uncle to sling him a lazy hundred thousand so that he can take a wife." As an added bonus, it would also provide an additional reason for dissing same-sex couples: those who go offshore to marry http://sixtyminutes.9msn.com.au/stories/peteroverton/259412/gay-marriage could rightly be referred to as queue jumpers. Posted by woulfe, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 11:10:55 AM
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Houellebecq,
"I just wish some gay people wouldn't be so camp and theatrical. I find it annoying. I don't see why camp people cant just talk normally..." I believe that it raises two issues: 1. The high voice which is the main thing is independently caused but tends to go together. Most get it and some don't. Some heterosexuals talk like that eg. Mike Tyson and Neil Sedaka. Research indicates that it results from infant environment. The point is that it isn't just a game. That is basically how they have always talked and it would feel unnatural to talk otherwise. Sure they can change it and some do with speech therapy. Given the Tyson example it is trite to point out that it doesn't reflect a biological condition like low testosterone. But for them to talk 'normally' it would feel like you putting on that voice. 2. The second thing is the theatrical and that overlaps because some use their high voice in a distinctive way to be more theatrical. You need to understand that many gay males are teased at school and take it very badly. Some research suggests that they take it worse than it was meant. (What the victins consider terrorising the perpetrators intend as pressure to conform with the expectation it will produce change) For them the reality is that they are being terrorised so that is their experience. Putting on a theatrical persona is a way of hiding behind something. It can be their way of managing a lot of hurt in their background. Feeling annoyed or telling them not to be silly is probably not the most appropriate response. "...I think us poor de-factos should march for the right to not be married off by the Guvment. Maybe we can march with the Gays next time. Actually I should be able to sell my license to marry to a gay person who wants to." Well wanting defacto relationships to be de-recognised is a new angle for supporting gay marriage. I haven't heard that one before. Posted by mjpb, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 11:11:43 AM
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as for other articles here IMHO it is very important to not include lesbians under the term "gay" [mainly because THEY don't want to be, as it is The G Word that has failed Homosexuals]
as seen even the official lobby group of GLBTI [and I have no idea of what an Intersex is] distinguishes between gay and lesbian [as does our very own Mardi Gras] What does GLBTI stand for? ‘GLBTI’ is an acronym that stands for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender and Intersex. The Commission understands that GLBTI people form a diverse group and sexuality or gender identity is only one aspect of a person’s total identity. However, this part of our website looks at the common areas of discrimination that GLBTI people face. Posted by Divorce Doctor, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 11:49:26 AM
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mjpb,
Interesting theories. Although on some level I think it's actually an aggressive behaviour. Like a sort of hyper-extroversion, an in-your-face style of conversing. Like you say, it could well be a reaction to years of abuse. Or maybe because they tried so hard to fit in with a more macho culture, now they are accentuating more than necessary their 'gayness'. Once they have made the step to come out of the closet, they feel the need to really slam the door and make a show of it. I know I don't feel any 'pride' in being hetero, but people talk about gay pride. I can understand a statement that you are not ashamed, but to say you are proud is an acceptance in some way that you should feel ashamed. If you leave out the assertions of pride it's a more convincing refutation to people who see it as shameful. The statements of gay pride give undue credibility to the argument that it's shameful. Lastly, I think the camp way of behaving is like a mating call so other gays will know you're gay and know it's safe to approach you without copping a homophobic bashing. A survival mechanism perhaps. Regardless, it's still bloody annoying. I also think you overestimate the % of gays that are camp. I reckon about 20%, regardless of how much the media loves the stereotype. So, in summary, I realise the poor guys have had a heck of a hard time, but camp theatrical goings on irritate me. Then again so do extroverts in general. Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 12:32:31 PM
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'Well wanting defacto relationships to be de-recognised is a new angle for supporting gay marriage. I haven't heard that one before.'
Well my argument, which I didn't elaborate because others are sick of me complaining, is that the new de-facto laws put in place (in a sad attempt to avoid recognising gay marriage but still give gay couples equal rights), have the effect of marrying all de-facto couples off. There now remains no option in society of cohabitation without risking your property and superannuation and being responsible for the live in partner's future earning capacity. Actually you can pay a nice Lawyer to attempt to get out of it, but it's a retrospective marrying off of a many a couple who don't commit to any such thing. That's why they didn't get married. Duh. If people want to be married, they can get married. There are many situations where a couple wish to retain their financial independence while living together. Who is the government, to decide for you, that you commit to be financially responsible for anyone who you shack up with for a couple of years? Equally who are they to say to gay people you aren't really committed to the person who you want to spend the rest of your life with? Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 12:43:43 PM
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Being a Christian I FULLY support anyone who finds happiness. It's not my place to judge ANYONE, I leave that to God and the Atheists. I personally can't see MY particular God having issues with people being complete as an indivdual, or a couple. I appreciate there is some out there who call themselves Christians that pass judgement on others but fortunately they don't speak for God, or me.
I'm trying to be the best person I can without trying to buy my way into 'heaven'. If that's not good enough for God, then so be it. If being gay is being true to yourself then more power to ya. Anyone who cast generalisations and judgements on others are hypocrites, suzeonline. Posted by StG, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 1:22:59 PM
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There now remains **no option** in society of cohabitation without risking your property and superannuation and being responsible for the live in partner's future earning capacity.
--- Exactly as I warned in my book before the change to the FLAct, and THAT simply reinforces my stance above that it is ONLY men who would be dumb enough to get bought off by the Govt [mainly in USA, but we always follow like lap dogs] to accepting the G Word, in what was essentially a sick joke Women are smart, hence are the winners in Family Law and even with no Govt assistance with Lesbianism, simply won the battle on their own by doing nothing more than being smart and working together. It's all here http://www.selfhelpmagazine.com/articles/glb/glbbw.html with the clincher: See, I'm not unschooled about these things. I got the memo. You know, the one from Lesbian and Gay Central, with the flashing neon "Politically Correct Alert!" bannered across the top. Lesbian sexuality is very scary to non-gays. It smacks of Barbara Stanwick-after-your-wife. They only know us by our sexuality. They only know us by their pornography, usually written by their men. And faked pictures in -- boy magazines with wild tongues going at each other. "From this time forward, let everyone committing acts of speaking in public refrain from this vile, stereotypical subject matter. It is the official policy of this body, and theretofore binding and irrevocable, that the image of lesbian America shall be of wholesome, whole hearted, asexual girl-next-door. Genitalia-deleted flesh Barbies. Dyke Doris days. Little sisters. Daughters. For acceptance, it is paramount, repeat urgent, repeat critical, repeat absolutely necessary, that all sexual references be eliminated from our speaker's bureau vocabulary. We trust you will follow this dictum to the precise letter to accomplish our world wide agenda, or else the entire community will trash you with in an inch of your stomach lining, excommunicate you from the cooler social occasions, and generally make your life heck on wheels. Why? Because we said so. Your Ever-vigilant Homosexual Oversight Committee." Posted by Divorce Doctor, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 1:55:22 PM
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WTF?
Divorce Doctor, I'll have 2 grams of that stuff! Lesbians huh? Maybe the communists are in on it too? Disclaimer: Though Divorce Doctor quoted me, I don't agree with whatever it is he is trying to say, which seems to be inspired by some really good drugs, which kinda makes me jealous. Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 2:10:01 PM
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I am glad some people are enjoying this and its started a reasonable discussion. Here are the remainder of the resons!
8. Gay marriage should be decided by the people and their elected representatives, not the courts. The framers checked the courts, which represent mainstream public opinion, with legislatures created to protect the rights of minorities from the tyranny of the majority. Interference by courts in this matter is inappropriate, just as it has been every time the courts have tried to hold back legislatures pushing for civil rights. 7. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed. 6. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because "separate but equal" institutions are a good way to satisfy the demands of uppity minority groups. 5. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal. 4. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract. 3. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall. 2. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning. 1. METEORS and VOLCANOES. Posted by D.Funkt, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 2:46:35 PM
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TRUTHNOW78: << We Christians don't care if you're gay - we just don't want our kids taught that it's OK to be gay (just like atheists don't want their kids to be taught it's ok to be Christian). So, go ahead and advance gay rights, but just do it in a way that doesn't impact on the lives of us >>
I'm an atheist and I have no problems with kids being taught that it's OK to be Christian (or any other religion for that matter). What I do have problems with is kids being taught that it's only OK to be Christian and everybody else will burn in Hell. That's a form of child abuse, in my opinion. D.Funkt: << 1. METEORS and VOLCANOES >> Too funny - but you forgot TSUNAMIS and BUSHFIRES! Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 3:02:01 PM
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It is a human rights abuse to promote a lifestyle that often leads to premature death through disease and is obviously unnatural. Keep your perversion to yourselves and stop shoving it in our faces. No amount of sarcasm can make something so disgusting right.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 3:57:46 PM
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OK Hullio, you appear to not have any attention span so I will try to explain, BUT first as Shelley Roberts says "it is paramount, repeat urgent, repeat critical, repeat absolutely necessary" that you read ALL of her article [and then shave off your mustache].
Critical words are here "For years, in order to accommodate the necessary acceptable world wide imagery for lesbians, we all, okay, many of us, had internalized, **not the homophobic message**, but the asexual one. With profound unison cries of "We're not just about our sexuality!" we went forth and **befriended**." There is nothing dumber, as Roberts says, than going around telling sane mature men that they are actually "gay", but just afraid to come out of some closet. So the second part of nasty Govt joke was to invent the word Homophobic, ie the H Word. This is the equivalent of the "It smacks of Barbara Stanwick-after-your-wife" comment by Roberts. So take a cold shower and consider exactly what she meant by "David was heading toward me one morning, when I realized something was different. Not wanting to make that stupid mistake when confronted with this physiognomous anomaly (which should cover your word-a-day exercises for this afternoon, Girls and Boys) of saying, "New haircut?" when someone just had a nose job, I studied his face. Mustache! You shaved your mustache!" Yep. When I was eighteen, I looked in the mirror at my baby face, and said, `A mustache would make me look older.' This morning, as I was looking in the mirror again, and **I realized it was working too well**!" Now this is related to lesbian sex, kiddies. Be patient." So yes, read her article say 16 times [as needed] and I will explain just why the G & H words are simply "gay" [but the gay with DOWNward inflection] in fact here is next exercise http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay but don't get ahead of yourself as there is a lot of cerebral baggage you will need to shed before all this will sink in Posted by Divorce Doctor, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 4:11:40 PM
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StG, <" If being gay is being true to yourself then more power to ya.
Anyone who cast generalisations and judgements on others are hypocrites, suzeonline." Yeah right StG, with all the Holier-than-thou posts you have posted on these pages, and then to say you are ok with gay marriage, well you must have read a different bible to all the other Christians! Runner will be able to help you with that! Who is the real hypocrite here? TruthNow78 <"We Christians don't care if you're gay - we just don't want our kids taught that it's OK to be gay." Ok? Children cannot be 'taught to be gay'. No amount of teaching will convince anyone who is heterosexual to be homosexual, that's for sure! There are many children brought up as Christians who are also Gay. Can you explain that? Posted by suzeonline, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 7:36:39 PM
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Great post from StG at 1.23.
Its rare and encouraging to hear a Christian say something that the Biblical Jesus would actually endorse. Posted by Sancho, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 7:46:32 PM
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Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 8:36:41 PM
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runner: << stop shoving it in our faces >>
Now that's an unfortunate choice of words in this context. Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 10:54:57 PM
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What is wrong with you people?
Here you are, with the law protecting you from making a stupid mistake, & you bitch about it. Don't you ever listen to the herto population? If you did, you would know that the quickest way to end a great relationship, is to get married, to your lover, that is. For gods sake, haven't you listened to the total destruction of lives, when ever the family court manages to get it's claws into a failed mirrage? Why on earth would you want to let yourself in for that CR4P? Like the old Morteen add says, when you're on a good thing, stick to it. You must all be stark raving mad, to even contemplate such a stupid thing. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 11:54:20 PM
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Dear Sig,
I have to face the Homosexuality in my family and the Holy Spirit revealed the truth to me. As a father I love my son,as God loves All people BUT HE HATES the SIN as sin leads to death. I love my son but hate the sin of homosexuality. We must judge all sin and love all people as our heavenly father does. As you know Love is not a feeling but a comittment to make a decision for God and not of the flesh. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but are mighty in pulling down strongholds of the mind. Pray, the word is our weapon, But unless God builds the house we labour in vain. Timing is critical for victory. I find if I tell God the Holy Spirit of my concern he gives me the timing. God is the God of the living. The devil is the god of the dead and by their fruit you shall know them. PLEASE always remember, to be present in the body is to be absent from the Lord and we are ALL subject to the negative of the flesh. That is why Paul says the body dies because of sin. My people perish from lack of knowledge. The Holy Spirit is the teacher of truth. Jesus said "my word is spirit and life", so live in the vine and you will bear the fruit of the vine. I do not support my son's lifestyle. I support my son and pray against the stronghold in his life. I hope I have been of some help as there is much more to this story than space and sensability permits but is not finished until God closes our final curtain individualy for he who endures to the end shall be saved. Always be faithful as God is faithful. "I never leave or forsake you". God Bless Richie Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 6:58:43 AM
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suzeonline,
Thanks for the updates on my personal beliefs. Appreciate it. I have to jot that down. Let me know if there's any other beliefs I should have. Richie, I'm sure God appreciates you speaking for 'him'. I take the details of the bible with a grain of salt matey. I believe the basic vibe of treat others as you wish to be treated, and such. But the bible was at the whim of people with murderous agenda for millenia. How do you know FOR A FACT that the intolerance of fellow man wasn't just some agenda by whoever who only had access to the scriptures for mass release. It doesn't make sense to me for Jesus to preach - on the one hand - to love thy neighbour, unless the're not Christian?. That's bollocks mate. My faith is between me and God, its got ZERO to do with you, or suzeonline, or ANYONE else. I treat EVERYONE in my day to day life as I want to be respected myself. Who are YOU to judge, homosexuals, Muslims, satanists, Atheists, or whoever?. What gives YOU that right?. Who are YOU to speak for God?. What gives you that right?. REAL people of faith love everyone equally and don't judge. Judge not lest ye be judged my hypocritical friend. Posted by StG, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 7:33:41 AM
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I say Richie and StG should have a jousting match. C'mon, a joust to the death!
Richie, 'the negative of the flesh' Flesh isn't negative, it's great! God made it too, so it must be good. 'I hope I have been of some help' Yeah good luck wit that! I think you will be sadly disappointed. Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 9:36:56 AM
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Dear Sig,
Jesus is the word of God according to the Bible . As a child did you understand all the laws governing the universe. I would think not. I find it very amusing to see people reject the bible because of lack of understanding. Paul an author of most of the N.T. was a killer when he met Jesus on the road to Damascus and he had to go through a total mind change to learn the truth. I am so glad you did it without any study. Jesus preached the KINGDOM of GOD as opposed to religious ideas and one of his teachings was that sinners don't inherit the Kingdom, they stay on their side of the fence in the kingdom of the world "the devils domain". If you want to understand the workings of a particular car it is much easier to follow the makers instruction manual, and the first lesson takes about 10 years of a childs life. Then he is qualified to commence the next part of his education on the motor car. How long have you studied the bible to arive at the place of rejection or is it because you want to keep your ways. I sugest you read my post again. God loves all but hates sin. He loves the person but hates the sin because he knows the fate reserved for the devil and all who put their faith in him. Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 10:09:07 AM
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No problem with gay marriage, however the wording of the Marriage Act should continue to refer to one man and one woman - in addition to the other references.
Posted by Cornflower, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 11:02:13 AM
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Richie,
Faith and truth is found in the heart. Not a book, nor a building. Posted by StG, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 11:38:53 AM
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Hey Richie maybe you could get a job here
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/priest_shortage_forces_vatican_to Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 12:35:20 PM
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OK, moving right along, going forward, I will answer the question you have all been dying to ask but are afraid to as you really know the answer but are not allowed to say so.
"why does dd keep saying Govt promoted the males via the G & H words but females did it all on their own with no silly words [just plain "Lesbians", before growing mustache, and after shaving it off]" Well it is all to do with what Runner is saying, ie anal sex by male homosexuals caused a major world catastrophe of AIDS, espec half of Africa wiped out. There was panic, should we castrate them all? But then calm returned as Govt did what Govts do ie a SWOT Analysis. STRENGTHS said USA controlled all anti AIDS drugs and [as seen already in South Africa] could hold the whole of Africa to ransom [or simply do oil for drugs deal at $10 a barrel for oil, and not an OPEC in sight]. OPPORTUNITIES said similarly why make same mistake as first Oil War in Iraq spending Trillions on an army when a FREE army of homosexuals has already half wiped out Africa, making it a doddle to take the oil. Of course the Master of Rape & Pillage the Holy Catholic Church did its bit by assuring eternal damnation to any African that used a condom. So it was simply a matter of Marketing the thing, starting with axeing the Grim Reaper [npi] and making the mention of AIDS illegal for the Govt Embedded Press [ie CNN], AND inventing a name for the new army ie GAY was born. http://www.theonion.com/content/video/congress_debates_merits_of_new Now here is a very funny satire on the actual moment in congress, but using the word "PRONK" as an alias for Gay. It comes fast and furious as while you are still splitting sides over the good vs bad meaning ["didn't you catch the change in inflection?"] than the adjective goes straight to a noun ie A Gay, and he says "can someone hand me a Pronk" Posted by Divorce Doctor, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 3:27:59 PM
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I feel sorry for Richie's son.
Imagine being a young gay man whose father is a rabidly homphobic godbotherer. The irony is that the only chance that Richie has of having grandchildren from his son is if gay marriage becomes legal and his son marries another bloke and adopts. And of course Richie's son is living proof of the fallacy of D.Funkt's satirical item 10, i.e. << 10. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children. >> Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 9:00:20 PM
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Well you cannot have blackface as that pretends you are another race but you can have a man flitting about in a vulgar female stereotype and called a wife which is a female. Or a feamle wearing a suit to look macho?
So can you pretend you are another sex, but not another race? Just need clarification. PC is so based on flavour of the month rather than logic. Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 9:41:29 PM
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TheMissus - the topic is gay marriage, not female impersonation or blackface.
Do try and keep up. Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 9:53:04 PM
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C J Morgan
Some couple in gay marriages use the term Husband and Wife. A wife is a female. Females have been downtrodden and victimised all throughout history. Wife is one label the female own yet men want that as well? Then some, not all, impersonate woman in the most ugly fashion...for laughs. Isn't this type of behaviour on the past as well or are females not due the same respect? Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 9:57:22 PM
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I have to say that is a pretty weird line of argument from someone who posts under the pseudonym of "TheMissus".
In any case, the debate is about whether homosexual people of any gender should have the right to marry, not what they choose to label each other once they've done so. This may come as news to you, but there are lots of lesbian couples out there who'd like to marry too. Probably some transgendered people as well. Shock! Horror! Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 10:18:12 PM
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The number of women emotionally abused by gay men pretending to be married is staggering. They have shown complete and total disrespect for women. Do you know how it feels to be married to someone who knew from the start they were gay but needed a woman for show? For their career? To please their family? Now they want "title" wife for the real "girls "they love and the "marriage" term for their union? But the real woman were never ever worthy of the title wife and their marriage a scam?
I have no issue if they want a union but pick their own cute terms and show some respect to the women they have abused for so long. Leave the term marriage, wife alone and forget dressing up as silly looking woman. Enough is enough. I am bowing down to everyone else with thier silly Ï am so offended" well now it is my turn. Posted by TheMissus, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 10:35:09 PM
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Oh, I get it. TheMissus married a gay guy.
Posted by Houellebecq, Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:20:14 AM
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"Do you know how it feels to be married to someone who knew from the start they were gay but needed a woman for show"
I suspect that they've tried to be hetro because of the incessant social pressure from those who can't accept what's different. Some have posted on this thread, the basis of the thread was the silly excuses they come up with to oppose full legal recogition of homosexual relationships (which has real ramifications). I suspect that there are a lot bigger things to worry about then homosexual couples using terms such as husband and wife or transgender people dressing in clothing not normally worn by their external gender. Some women have been wearing trousers etc for years and I've not noticed that robbing me of anything important. If you really are bothered by gay people having hetro relationships then fight like crazy for them to be allowed to live by their orientation without harassment. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 22 October 2009 7:35:01 AM
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I had some of my biggest teenage crushes
on guys who were gay - and I didn't care, simply because I thought they were fabulous! Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 October 2009 9:35:46 AM
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Yeah and I've been turned down by so many lesbian woman.
I used to ask a girl out, and then she said no, and it was always because she was a lesbian! Posted by Houellebecq, Thursday, 22 October 2009 9:58:00 AM
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If you really are bothered by gay people having hetro relationships then fight like crazy for them to be allowed to live by their orientation without harassment.
-- But Robert, you have missed the boat by 15 years or more. OK we all heard John Marsden [RIP] crying his eyes out on LNL because a Mr Plod thumped him in the head for buggering little boys at public toilet blocks He told Adams he had to go there as the govt did not provide places for him to meet & greet homosexuals. But as I explained above the world is your oyster now, not because you were smart and followed Roberts Rules [the other Roberts - not you], but because the govt has put you way up on the top rung of the chook perch as long as you KEEP spreading AIDS to the Oil producing countries of the world. The govt even provides script writers in Facebook to provide this gay [with down inflection] list of 17 pieces of drivel, and you will notice NOT ONE mention of AIDS. But you have not looked into the mirror lately to see "that the mustache worked too well", and you are breaking every single Rule by harassing sane people that they are HomoPhobic, which is as smart as what Roberts calls Barbara-Stanwick-after-your-wife persona. Get smart mate, just take your good fortune and enjoy it, same as the lesbians did, because it wont last forever. As soon as other countries come up with AIDS drugs the govt will need to go back to its Anthrax stockpiles and gays will simply be thrown overboard and revert to normal homosexuals Posted by Divorce Doctor, Thursday, 22 October 2009 10:21:28 AM
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Dear Houellie,
I thought you were 'fabulous?' No, wait, my mistake, Piper called you 'awesome.' That explains it! Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 October 2009 12:24:41 PM
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Houellebecq: << Oh, I get it. TheMissus married a gay guy. >>
That would indeed explain it - just as Richie's fundamentalist Christianity explains his homophobia. But what do you reckon's behind Divorce Doctor's deranged homophobic rants? Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 22 October 2009 12:33:12 PM
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TheMissus,
Do you think it's possible, now I'm just thinking aloud here, that people could well be confused about their sexuality, and given a lot of the society's attitudes to homosexuality (Richie 10 for example), that when they meet a person they get on well with, who is the 'right' gender, they may even end up marrying that someone, who they really do care about, and try to love in a romantic way, rather than be a 'filthy' homosexual? I think if you really talked to your ex hubby, you would find that he didn't deliberately deceive you as a vicious act of putting his life on hold and pretending he is something he isn't just to get at you. Also, what do you think of the women who end up realising they are lesbian after marrying a guy. Do you hold the same contempt for them? CJ, 'But what do you reckon's behind Divorce Doctor's deranged homophobic rants?' They're all perfectly logical. Just not the kind of logic you normally see. I find if you toss up AIDS, Oil, Gay, Lesbian, Anthrax in the air, you often come up with a compelling theory. I'm just not emotionally or intellectually ready to comprehend it all. Maybe in time. He's a doctor of something that's for sure. Divorce Doctor, You really are intriguing me. I feel like I have been walking around blind all these years. What did you mean by 'gays will simply be thrown overboard and revert to normal homosexuals'? What is the difference between gays and normal homosexuals? Foxy, I'm actually Bootylicious. You should see the wiggle in my walk. Gay guys sometimes hit on me, it's really flattering. I'd love to be a chick and be hit on all the time. 'I had some of my biggest teenage crushes on guys who were gay - and I didn't care, simply because I thought they were fabulous!' Really you were after the unattainable guy, because you feared the possibility of a relationship that could lead to genuine physical intimacy. A bit like TheMissus perhaps. Posted by Houellebecq, Thursday, 22 October 2009 12:55:33 PM
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No funny enough I married a refugee lol.
I do not care if a man frolicks in a frock. I do not care if he wants to wear the moniker wife. I would not even care if he skipped down Main Street naked save a pink feather boa. Devils Advocate if you wish. However I am VERY offended that the chronic OFFENDED, usually white rich men get their jocks in a twist at anything and everything EXCEPT women causes. The Political Correct Religion of Morality and Penance has me scratching my head, Can I say coloured person? No, No...but person of colour is fine. Can I call pots and kettles black? Well we would prefer inky or charcoal. What is the proper word..Aborgine or aboriginal: Well it can be offensive if you do use the wrong tense, capitalisation and you need to be careful..just need to try and find that rule book here somewhere..buried deep somewhere. Get back to you.... What about men wearing make up to look like a women and be a bit tarty and floozy - Fine. What about wearing make-up to look like the Jacksons - INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT. If women get raped because they are white is that a race hate crime - No it is only racist to suggest it might be. Is it ok for Orphan Races - No No No. Is is ok for NAKED women races - YES YES YES. So under these anal rules then marriage and wife along with drag queens would be very offensive, so along with the dwarfs, many black people and women we are so not offended at what upsets the white man so much but as a women I am offended we are not on the list as a special species. Posted by TheMissus, Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:04:33 PM
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Thanks for posting this ;) All these reasons show why gay marriage should be made legal. I am not gay but have no problem at all with gay people, I think it's everyone's right to choose the partner he wants and go into a legal relationship. If gay marraige was legalized, the annoying discussion about it would finally stop - a very good reason ;)
Posted by jobagin, Thursday, 22 October 2009 6:40:57 PM
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Dear Houellie,
Your version says - "Bootyliscious", Yet the reality probably screams - "Big Arsed." Which would explain why only a few gays sometimes hit on you... As for the wiggle - well you obviously know how to dress strategically and of course you understand the immense importance of good lighting. As for my being after an unattainable guy - because of some fear of intimacy. No, Sweet Cheeks - I already had someone for intimacy. I simply wanted friends who knew how to make an entrance. Who always had an opinion. And 98 other reasons - look up the website I gave in one of my earlier posts (100 Reasons to be Gay). Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 October 2009 8:10:23 PM
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Damn those gays! I never have forgiven Noah for taking two gay unicorns on board with him.
Posted by Sigmund, Thursday, 22 October 2009 9:28:44 PM
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LOL Sigmund - don't be too hard on poor old Noah though. One of the unicorns was in drag and was so gorgeous the poor chap didn't notice.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 22 October 2009 9:56:32 PM
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"Do you know what the queers are doing to our soil! They're in it with the aliens. They're building landing strips for gay Martians. I swear to God." - The Dead Milkmen, "Stuart"
Posted by Clownfish, Thursday, 22 October 2009 10:32:18 PM
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Foxy I wish I had a bigger ass. I just love that word Bootyliscious! It's so crass and juvenile and American. But sadly I have the ass of a 12 year old boy. It does wiggle though, so I think I can qualify. Maybe I should get some padded undies like women get padded bras.
'Which would explain why only a few gays sometimes hit on you... ' Oh they love me Foxy. I only have a few gay friends and rarely do I go to their bars because other mates we are with just wont do it. I figure they have to go to straight bars, so it wouldn't hurt to go somewhere they like sometimes. But every time I do go I get quite a lot of attention. Lucky they are big guys and know lots of people and shoo off a lot of the attention I get. It's a bit uncomfortable at times but I think it's good to put yourself in that position to appreciate what it's like for them not being able to feel comfortable being who they are. Also it makes me envy women and how they get to be desired all the time. It's such an ego kick. Men just don't get to be ogled and whistled at in the same way women do. Although I once had a quite drink with a mate interrupted by a bunch of older women and they were having a hens night and they weren't backwards in coming forward. Older women have more confidence I suppose. The 15 year age difference didn't stop them harassing us all night. I was sexually assaulted more than once! (pinched on the bum) Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 23 October 2009 7:57:01 AM
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Dear Houellie,
I'm impressed! Not only have you added spice to your life - it seems that sometimes you've added side dishes. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 23 October 2009 9:54:51 AM
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17. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
16. Gay culture is a new fad created by the liberal media to undermine long-standing traditions. We know this is true because gay sex did not exist in ancient Greece and Rome.
15. There are plenty of straight families looking to adopt, and every unwanted child already has a loving family. This is why foster care does not exist.
14. Conservatives know best how to create strong families. That is why it is not true that Texas and Mississippi have the highest teen birthrates, and Massachusetts, Vermont, and New Hampshire have the lowest. This is a myth spread by the liberal media.
13. Marriage is a religious institution, defined by churches. This is why atheists do not marry. Christians also never get a divorce.
12. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why our society has no single parents.
11. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
10. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
9. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.