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Modern Britain and Muslim Community

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Islam isn’t the sickness. It is the cure. It is one of liberty and equality. Secularists and followers of other religions regard Islam with something approaching panic. It is wrong to say that Islam has turned Osama bin Laden into a devil. It is the Secularist Western policies have turned Osama and others against the West. The world needs Islam to address the moral issues. America and Europe are wealthy, but they are morally impoverished. Broken families, drugs, booze, youth gangs, crime, neglect of children and the old, the sheer boredom of shopaholicism, terrorism, the inner-cities slums, materialism itself, are all the marks of a global society in decline. Children need to be taught to distinguish between right and wrong.



Ask these hypocrites this question. " How many Fillipinos or Vietnamese go to Mudersah to realise the existence of European terrorism. The European terrorism and subsequent colonialism was inintiated, in modern times, by the Spanish terrorists some 400 years ago. Their immoral gain, the loot of gold, used to be intercepted by a British pirate called Sir Francis Drake. This gave other European nations including the British the hint to start the soulless but lucrative trade of murdering and robbing other nations to get rich quick.

Iftikhar
Posted by Iftikhar, Thursday, 17 September 2009 1:53:04 AM
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Those of the Muslim faith are, generally, not native to Britain, which is a nominal Protestant nation, known for its religious tolerance to accept Catholics, Jews and other multiple denominations.

So if Muslims find life there so intolerable, then maybe the best option for Muslims is to return to the country of their origin or some other fabled land of Muslim delight, where they are free to terrorise and organize into criminal conspiracies in pursuit of seditious enterprises and martyrdom and leave the poor old Brits to wallow in whatever it is that the disgruntled Muslims thought they wanted to share in when they migrated to UK.

And maybe all the Muslims with similar feelings who clamber onto worn out Indonesian fishing boats to illegally invade Australia and then find it not to their particular liking should do the same.

Of course, the alternative would be for all the Muslims to do as many other new arrivals have done, practice the old saying “when visiting Rome… do as the Romans do”, shave off their beards, throw off their hijabs, convert to Christianity and assimilate into the wider community, instead of locking themselves into Muslim ghettos and demanding status as a mini-Muslim state.

Iftikhar “Islam isn’t the sickness. It is the cure.”

If that were so… why do so many Muslims choose to live in a Christian Britain, when they could just as easily find a Muslim country to live in?

As for relating Muslim terrorists to events which happened 500 years ago, pathetic, Things have moved on from the days of the “divine right of Kings”. It is as relevant as commenting upon the Turkish occupation of modern Greece, Hungary and the Baltic countries.

And I am informed most of the patrons of northern Melbourne brothels are Muslim men, Lebanese Muslim gangs run riot in Sydney, many women wear burkahs to hide the bruises from the beatings they get from their husbands and young women are still sold into arranged marriages by their fathers, although it is against Australian law.

Islam is no more a cure than Roman Catholicism is.
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 17 September 2009 8:16:52 AM
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You can stop the bluster, Banjo.

You have been caught, fair and square, repeating rumours and scuttlebutt.

>>It has been widely reported that 1147 cars were burnt by rioters in France last New Years Eve. 'They' are muslim youth.<<

Hey, I even provided a link to the news article for you to read, the one that used exactly the same number. It's title was "France's New Year's Tradition: Car-Burning"

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1869392,00.html

Have a read of it. Hopefully it isn't too long for your concentration span.

Count the number of times it refers to Muslims or Islam.

Grand total: zero.

But you appear to know that "muslim youth" was responsible. Do you have any source for this, or did you simply invent it?

Or is it in that special category, something that "everybody knows"?

Just like everybody knows that "by 2015, Sweden will be 50% muslim"

>>We must always be aware of and oppose alien threats to our culture and way of life.<<

Thanks for reminding me.

Is tolerance part of our culture and way of life?

Or is bigotry?
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:14:54 AM
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Don't worry Iftikhar Ahmad, on demographic trends, the Muslim's will rule Britain soon enough. And I can't wait to see the faces of the white liberals and feminists when they realise Sharia Law doesn't allow them the freedoms they're use to.

This is why we call liberalism a suicidal Worldview.
Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:50:50 AM
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Ya'll postin' in a troll thread.

I very much doubt the OP is a Muslim of any stripe, but a garden-variety white supremacist indulging in some propaganda. Good of Banjo to help out, and even better of Pericles to eviscerate him for our entertainment.
Posted by Sancho, Thursday, 17 September 2009 10:51:13 AM
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Sancho

<< I very much doubt the OP is a Muslim of any stripe, but a garden-variety white supremacist indulging in some propaganda. >>

I don't often disagree with you, Sancho, but I do here. :)

On reading Iftikhar's three posts to OLO, I see an authentic and consistent view emerging. Like it or not, Iftikhar's view is one which is widely held and one which I think we should engage with in a calm and rational manner.

Iftikhar

<< America and Europe are wealthy, but they are morally impoverished. Broken families, drugs, booze, youth gangs, crime, neglect of children and the old, the sheer boredom of shopaholicism, terrorism, the inner-cities slums, materialism itself, are all the marks of a global society in decline. >>

I agree with aspects of your assessment of modern western society. To me though it is far too simplistic to think that adherence to Islam, Christianity or any other religion is the answer to our problems. Trying to impose any religious order on any advanced democracy will never work.

Besides, religions do not have a monopoly on what is good in this world. There are many atheists and others who pay no more than nominal homage to religion who treat others by the Golden Rule and do far more good in the world than those who are openly religious.

I think a lot of the problems concerning you, and many in the West as well by the way, relate to the relentless pace of living and the huge and growing disparities in wealth and privilege inherent in modern western economies. People who struggle to support themselves and who feel marginalized from the mainstream will very understandably seek to numb their pain and to lash out in anti-social ways. Given the growing numbers of people in this situation, it is no wonder we're facing the problems you've outlined.

Giving people the skills and the assistance to participate fairly in society will do far more to eliminate these problems than religious indoctrination ever will.
Posted by Bronwyn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 1:21:43 PM
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