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Modern Britain and Muslim Community

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What a crock, Iftikhar.
If muslims don't want their children to integrate, they should have stayed where they came from. Why would they want to move to a country of 'such barbarity' anyway? As for barbarity, who are the suicide bombers? Brits or muslims?
If Brits emigrated to your country of origin, would the government set up state-funded schools for them? Or would they be doomed to 'grow up to be angry young men'? 'Arabic, Urdu and other community languages' are not the language of Britain just as English is not the language of the Middle East.
To make it worse, you make the inflammatory statement that 'There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school'. So you want the Brits to fund your schools but stay out. Is that so that they don't witness your classes such as Jihad 101?
It's people with your twisted, one-sided opinions that are causing the divide to grow.
Finally, you mentioned teenage pregnancies. Is that caused by Brit girls being raped by muslims, as seems to happen there quite frequently?
Posted by Austin Powerless, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 2:25:28 PM
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I was at the Australian Consulate in Bali recently. They have "new" premises. Inside the grounds is a memorial shrine devoted to the victims. It is all very nice except in one regard. It has a dirty great wooden cross at the head.

Now in Bali in certain areas we have something of a cultural/religious melting pot, predominately Christian, Bali Hindu and Indo Islamism. (and of course those of the secular/agnostic persuasion though we rarely dare to admit to not having a religion in fanatical Idonesia)

And verily, we have all these people in and out of the consulate so why it was chosen to alienate some of them from the shrine is deeply dissapointing.

I think in principal we see the embodiment of this problem in the distilled essence of both the thread originator and also in the likes of Runner, both of whom seem equally convinced of the validity of their own God concepts and worse still their right to impose it on everyone else. Just grubby politicians who seek to subjugate others under the guise of Spirituality.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 2:35:59 PM
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Is this author for real? First you denigrate the citizens of the country you live in (or only the white non-Muslim ones) and then ask them to fund your schools. Not a good tactic for wining friends and influencing people.

Britain seems to be doing quite well despite all this crime and binge-drinking and is not in fear of civil collapse anytime soon. Sure there are areas that require attention particularly in relation to social problems but to paint it in such a doomsday light is disingenuous.

Is this author claiming there is no crime, drinking or violence in Muslim countries. Stoning women for not wearing appropriate clothing would be seen as barbaric by those living in Britain who enjoy greater democratic freedoms.

Why would you choose to emigrate to a nation that you so despise?

Why should taxpayers pay for Muslim government schools - the whole idea of a universal public education system is equal access to high quality (hopefully) education without discrimination.

Why should Christian and other religious schools have to fund their own way, with some assistance from government, but not Muslim schools?
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 2:43:55 PM
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Aah alas *Austin* but not just Brit girls, but also their own.

Whilst not a statistically representative sample, the amount of girls I have met in Islamic Indonesia with cigarette burns and knife cuts on their arms and legs for refusing to consent to their husbands taking another wife, most often during the time when they were pregnant and not able to have sexual relations, and also usually when the husband can't even afford to feed his first wife .. the mind boggles.

Often these girls get relegated to being sent to Bali and sold to tourists, a still prolific practice in places like Kuta and Sanur.

But then as of last I saw, "us and our military allies" were still "docking" at notorious places like Pattaya Thailand, one huge whore house on the beach, and taking advantage of gorgeous young females fresh out the rice paddies with no other financial security solution to contribute to the care of their impoverished families.

And so as not to be hypocrytical, I admit that in my past that I too have done more than one "under the covers" mission.

Alas to be an attractive woman in some parts of the world.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 3:20:31 PM
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Dog whistles at the ready.... go!

And Banjo is out of the traps, racing away into the distance...

>>By 2015, Sweden will be 50% muslim, and that is not far off<<

Where on earth did you dig that one up, pal?

http://www.eumap.org/topics/minority/reports/eumuslims/background_reports/download/sweden/swe_exec

Strewth, the way you guys bang on about how the world is about to be taken over by Saracen hordes, you'd think we were back in the twelfth century.

And along the same lines...

>>Last new years eve they burnt 1147 cars in France<<

...who are "they"?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1869392,00.html

You seem to want us to believe that Muslims are responsible. You have no evidence of course, so you have to rely on insinuation.

We've been here before, haven't we.

>>The UK already has limited polygamy and some aspects of Sharia law has been introduced<<

Garbage.

Polygamy is illegal.

Folks who arrive in the country in this state are not prosecuted for it, however, nor are they told to divorce the surplus. But they can't register more than one.

Sharia law has not been introduced.

Sharia tribunals are allowed however - as they are in the US - and are similar to the Jewish Beth Din.

http://www.almendron.com/tribuna/25707/sharia-across-the-pond/

It is paranoia-driven propaganda that you are regurgitating here, and you should be ashamed of yourself for pretending otherwise.

>>Many muslims see themselves as pioneers for Islam as our forebears did in Aus.<<

Your forebears were pioneers for Islam?

How odd.

The original post is simply an international troll, and should be comprehensively ignored.

Sadly, it stirs up the xenophobes and whack-a-mozzies.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 4:27:00 PM
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" ... The original post is simply an international troll, and should be comprehensively ignored. ... "

I think that it is better to study such trolls *Pericles* for this one is likely representative and they reason not in the manner in which people here are generally accustomed.

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If you don't mind I'll just go back to my tangent for a bit and convey something of what I have been led to believe by my "friend" and informer who works on the inside of the Bali mafia ring.

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The girls are lured in by their own, who come cloaked in the respectability of the mosque, promising riches and a route out of poverty. Yes .. Islamic mafia rats .. and ones who make thousands of US$ per night when its their shift, are specifically unregistered by the local police and guvment authorities and who do regularly make trips unchecked back to Islamic Jawa with lots of black economy cash, to feather their own nests and of course donate to their sponsors.

Now to me, this has potential serious security implications.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 4:58:43 PM
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