Even the government uses more casuals now or non-ongoing staff to allow flexibility in the workforce. Now that the government wants to streamline the APS and be seen as fiscally conservative we will see more rubbery figures from departments manipulating the system to ensure there is still enough people to do the work.

Or in some cases, not enough people at the frontline only to be met with cries of lack of service, "why do we pay our taxes" etc.

Trouble with government spending cuts on the APS is that it is usually the lower level service deliverers, customer service areas that are cut. Politicians make these cuts but then wipe their hands of how these cuts are going to be managed and what they might mean for 'public service'. They really need to enforce a cut across the service at all levels otherwise it is a joke expecting the lowest paid to do more with less. Centrelink is probably the best example of this but not the only one.

The senior end of the service always seems to survive the hard knocks. Then those workers in the frontline are blamed for the ensuing lack of service, then later a consultant comes in to say yes you need more staff and it is increased again until the next round of cuts, when another consultant is called in to say you can streamline processes and do things better with less staff and on the cycle goes.

This never-ending cycle is costly - get rid of overpaid consultants who are only called in to do one's bidding and use this to actually increase or maintain the current level of service. We should learn from this cycle but we don't and it is endemic to both sides of politics.

Sorry, rehctub I have probably gone off topic a bit.

No Pelican I agree with what you say.

It is flexabillity in the workplace, as well as extended trading hours in retail that have contributed to more casuals.

Now there is talk of the loading for casuals to be increased from 20% to 25%, I am assuming in an effort to get more employees on full time work.

I have grave fears this will lead to the closure of more small businesses and place more strain on unemployment.

By all means encourage full time work, but no unless you wind back trading hours as well. Otherwise they are simply handing a greater monopoly to the chains and remember, they feed shareholders, not families.

P.S Belly, I told you that the eels were a threat!

Bring on benny at suncorp, sorry 'lang park' and we will simply wipe them out again.

Cheers

I came back to let you have your dig.
Some choking, some very bad lapses in defense, and my pain is real, we can not win in my opinion, however we can next weekend.
Casuals, you without taking a second to think give an explanation why we have so many.
It supports my view those oil rig workers save the bosses money, even with that loading.
I am at war, no other way to describe it, with a state government that is increasingly turning full time jobs into casual ones.
Now if it was cheaper, if it was being done as well, if that work was as good or better than full time workers.
I would be left stranded no way I could win.
It never is, it always is worse, often dangerous often breaks that governments own laws on safety fair wages and lots more.
And dreadful as it sounds, once maybe still in roads at least contracts went to former management employees, of the very group granting the contract.
On pay days it was my job to find out why no pay was in the bank, and far too often why firms went bankrupt over night.
Always it took months to get pay owed sometimes it never was recovered.
Turnbulls apparent thoughts about work choices is strapping his ship to a sinking one.

Turnbulls apparent thoughts about work choices is strapping his ship to a sinking one.

It is my understanding that turnbull will let the new Ir laws run and, if the libs win at the next election, or the next, they will have at least had time to evaluate the new laws before making changes.

Now you raised safety and breaks.

How many truckies do you see get out of their rig 'wearing thongs'.

How many concreters, brickies, plasterers turn up at a job then walk around inspecting it prior to commencing work 'wearing thongs'.

Breaks; If we the bosses offer an employee an opportunity to work straight through without a break then finnish early, most jump at it knowing full well they are breaking the law and putting their won safety at risk.

Safety at the workplace is a two way street. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink!

I think the broncs will be to strong at home for 'benny's boys' as they can't handle 'in your face' defence. The eels will roll the titans and the dogs will be worse off for the weeks rest and they will bring kamorly back to early and be beaten and miss the final.

The ones to beat, as usual, will be the storm.

I just hope we don't play them before the grand final as they are incapable of beating the broncs in the GF as they are not strong enough mentaly. Last year when they pipped us at the post was just a fluke for them. They didn't win that game, 'we lost it'!

Evidence of such was the 40 - 0 grand final score.

Belly, why do you avoid facts so often.

Have you not seen a truckie, brickie or plasterer turn up for work in thongs?

It seems to me that every time you are presented with 'real facts', you either avoid the thread or change the toppic. Why?

rechtub yet again you taunt me, for not replying to one of your posts.
You truly must learn I do not share your over inflated opinion of your self.
Ponder on these words, if you both over estimate your own ability's, and under estimate your opponents your are twice beaten.
Yes I have seen such people break the law.
And it was work choices that stopped me and my mates entering work sites to put a stop to such stupidity.
Those acts are against the law.
Let us for a second drop the truckys are good blokes rubbish.
Give most a big steering wheel air horn and CB radio and they are children again CB=CHILDISH BEHAVIOR
No need to look far walk along side any truck rest area and look in the bins and grass for pill bottles, you will find them, drugs are always in use.
No boss worth his salt would let any worker work in thongs it is against the law.
rechtub I read your posts not all are worth answers most fail the test of balance all fail to understand the subject.
Are you telling me you think your lost sheep can win an election?
One more time Turnbull will never ever be PM Rudd has this and the next election won right now, want to bet I am wrong, bet you ten kgs of your best pork sausages and no putting the under a cold water tap to make beef look pork ok?