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Kyle and Jackie O - a win for public opinion.

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The fact remains that no one, on any radio station, with or without delays in place, has the right to ask sexual questions of a minor. Full stop!

He, along with anyone involved from that station, including the producers, deserve everything they get.

One thing for sure, this should send a clear message to all these 'air jocks' that the time has come to stop all this crap they call entertainment.

People are simply sick of this crap they call radio, why else would the ABC hold the top morning spot on radio.

It's time for these heros to go back to the cat walk, or wherever they came from.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 13 August 2009 6:28:11 AM
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rehctub:"The fact remains that no one, on any radio station, with or without delays in place, has the right to ask sexual questions of a minor. Full stop!"

Why? I'm not being argumentative, but it is precisely that sort of absolutism that I find most facinating. What are your grounds for being so certain?

Please note, I don't listen to the show or others like it, but millions (literally) do. Are they all wrong?
Posted by Antiseptic, Thursday, 13 August 2009 6:32:52 AM
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Anti:”Well, yes, but what does that have to do with the discussion? What do you think about the impact of the false claim of rape? All good as far as you're concerned - all's fair when you're on air and that sort of thing, or does the one person who's suffered a genuine material loss out of this, Kyle Sandilands, deserve some compensation? After all, he was just doing his job until the mother dragged the girl along and she started telling lies. Regardless of what one thinks of the merits of the job, it's not illegal...”

In this instance I can’t imagine the 14 year old is too worried about any false claims. Anti I still haven’t read a thing about it after seeing the Linda Burney quote and I am still just reacting to comments here.

Which I think is helping.

False rape claims; devastating and with wide reaching and extremely hurtful consequences for many in a lot of cases.

If the accused had been over 18 I’m sure it would have all been an unholy mess.

But this is still a crap family saying she is lying? What did the lie detector say after all that?

Kyle is a fool if in his profession he couldn’t think better on his feet. The rest of them should have thought more about the entire program before even doing it.

Retchub say it well:” The fact remains that no one, on any radio station, with or without delays in place, has the right to ask sexual questions of a minor. Full stop!”
Posted by The Pied Piper, Thursday, 13 August 2009 7:00:00 AM
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Anti: [Wonder if KS feels “raped” after this - or would that be too metaphorical here?]

TPP: [We’ll discount the false claims from a 14 year old precisely because she’s 14 – when she’s a woman, there’ll be other reasons – I’ll keep my head firmly in the sand and stay uninformed] “Which I think is helping.”

Seems to me the false claim was not against KS. Not that he would be deemed entitled to any compensation even if it was (which would be unfair). The discussion is about whether Kyle has some responsibility for broadcasting crap.

My concern would be with the girl, and the hundreds of thousands like her, entering adulthood in such states. Any men having anything to do with them would be asking for it too ... men more decent than Kyle possibly.

The irony is that we wouldn’t know about it if it wasn’t for the likes of Kyle. Any of you software engineers out there, designing any lie detecting iPhone apps yet?
Posted by Seeker, Thursday, 13 August 2009 8:06:25 AM
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Seeker:”TPP: [We’ll discount the false claims from a 14 year old precisely because she’s 14 – when she’s a woman, there’ll be other reasons – I’ll keep my head firmly in the sand and stay uninformed] “Which I think is helping.””

What I said:”In this instance I can’t imagine the 14 year old is too worried about any false claims. Anti I still haven’t read a thing about it after seeing the Linda Burney quote and I am still just reacting to comments here.”

And oops – did look bad. I was referring to the male 14 year old not being too worried.

But yeah if she stays with a family like that I despair for any of her future encounters and given the drama and attention around this incident she is likely to learn a big lesson about attention and maybe take it to new heights next time.

Gawd, or the opposite, or it was true. What a mess.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Thursday, 13 August 2009 8:20:58 AM
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The Pied Piper “What a crap family”

Yes, epitomized by a skanky mother figure

Rehctub “The fact remains that no one, on any radio station, with or without delays in place, has the right to ask sexual questions of a minor. Full stop!”

Whilst I normally agree with a lot you say I disagree this time.

Making laws which define the only "acceptable topics of conversation" is the antithesis of free speech and the narrow end of the edge which leads toward censorship, like Victoria’s anti-vilification laws..

I would accept the following

I cannot control what is presented by any radio station

I do control whether I listen to that station.

My right to protest any broadcast is to turn it off

Otherwise, I am risking the presentation of the fair and reasonable being banned by nutters like Fred Nile and worse, the left wing swill who sit in the background, intent on stifling every opposing voice.
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 13 August 2009 9:16:33 AM
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