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Kyle and Jackie O - a win for public opinion.

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"Genes interacting with environment."

Yabby,

I'd go a little further than this and say that everything that a person experiences moulds them as a person. The biggest influences are how your parents raised you and their values, the "vibe" in the region/country you grew up in, your genetic makeup, your personal predilections and more to boot.

If you're using "Genes interacting with environment" as a catch-all phrase for all of the above interactions, I agree with you.
Posted by RobP, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 7:35:25 PM
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Anti:"THE family of the girl at the centre of the 2Day FM radio rape scandal has accused the teenager of lying about the sexual assault and defended Kyle Sandilands as the real victim in the on-air ordeal."

"Anyone?"

What a crap family.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 8:31:38 PM
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TPP: <<"Anyone?"

What a crap family.>>

I don’t think that’s what Anti had in mind, but now that you mention it, yes, quite so.
How did you go with your big meeting today?
Posted by Seeker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 8:42:14 PM
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Seeker:”I don’t think that’s what Anti had in mind, but now that you mention it, yes, quite so.
How did you go with your big meeting today?”

Thank you for asking Seeker, turned out to be a lovely lady who was some kind of counselor.

It would have been a walk in the park if a manager hadn’t called before her arrival highly annoyed and saying things like “placement wont work coming out to see you Friday with another manager”.

Fair wet myself. Now I’m backtracking through e-mails trying to work out which bit annoyed them the most and if the counselor was some kind of set up.

I am hopeless at this, I like looking after kids and don't cope well with Managers and the way they talk. Half the time I don't even understand what they have said to me until someone else translates.

I did notice that it has been awhile since they offerred me a support person.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 8:53:51 PM
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Jewels I agree - bloody dreadful family.

The point of the outrage wasn't the rape claim; but that a 14 yr old
was protesting being hooked up to the lie detector and then
asked about sexual activity.

It's astonishing that these family members have blabbed that
the girl was drunk and unsupervised at age 12. She was not only
underaged (a literal child) but drunk and therefore incapable of
consent anyway.

I'd be interested to know who the 14 yr old is and whether the
family is bagging him out in the same way,

Very sad business; I hope that child finds the loving care that
has been denied her so far.
Posted by Pynchme, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 10:36:08 PM
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YPP:"What a crap family."

Well, yes, but what does that have to do with the discussion? What do you think about the impact of the false claim of rape? All good as far as you're concerned - all's fair when you're on air and that sort of thing, or does the one person who's suffered a genuine material loss out of this, Kyle Sandilands, deserve some compensation? After all, he was just doing his job until the mother dragged the girl along and she started telling lies. Regardless of what one thinks of the merits of the job, it's not illegal...

Pynchme:"The point of the outrage wasn't the rape claim; but that a 14 yr old
was protesting being hooked up to the lie detector and then
asked about sexual activity."

As I understand it, the 14 year old was simply repeating the same claim she'd made earlier but had then contradicted to the aunties. I suspect that the mother dragged her along to the show to try to get her claim "disproved" by the "lie detector". No, it's not a very bright way of dealing with it, but she obviously wasn't much chop at dealing with her daughter anyway given the girl's history as trotted out by the family.

If she was doing as you say, is making a false claim of rape a reasonable thing to do? How do you think the boy she falsely accused feels about it? what if she had proceeded with the claim and he had to go to court to prove he didn't do it? Tough luck for him?

What if she was a woman going through a marriage breakdown? Would you be defending her for making the false allegation?

When is it "reasonable" to falsely make an allegation of rape or assault?
Posted by Antiseptic, Thursday, 13 August 2009 5:52:54 AM
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