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Kyle and Jackie O - a win for public opinion.

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investigative journalism and time delay are protected by public interest disclosure.
what occurred was child pornography.

DoCS will counsel the mother and the child crimes unit of the NSW Police will consider charging the alleged offenders in the public interest, a certainty should compensation be sought.

The Pied Piper the girl gets her own legislature.
Posted by whistler, Thursday, 13 August 2009 11:31:47 PM
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Hello TPP, I agree when you write "adults have certain freedoms and responsibilities and one is the protection and care of children".

All the adults in this sorry saga neglected their duty of protection and care. Also, some people here show a personal disrespect for the young girl and are using the controversy to push their barrows. The people who should be admonished are the adults. They should be admonished because they didn't,or didn't know how to, protect and care for the young girl in question. The adults need to be given a greater awareness of the consequences of their actions, and a better resolution is obtained by helping the adults towards that end.
Posted by MaryE, Friday, 14 August 2009 12:52:37 AM
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Ok, my kids are grown up now, but let's say I go to the local primary school to collect one of my nephews.

Now while I'm waiting a twelve-year-old girl sits beside me and I question her about sex.

Would I have done anything wrong?

What do you think the teacher would have done if told of the incident?

Do you think the police would have become involved in the matter if a complaint had been made?

Do you think I would have been branded a paedophile?

I stand by my remarks that no one, other than a trained professional, has the right to ask such questions of a minor. The mother, yes! On a radio station in the form of a 'radio stunt', No!
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 14 August 2009 6:31:54 AM
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Again well put rehctub.

Examinator - great posts too. I like the way you take account of power differentials.
Posted by Pynchme, Friday, 14 August 2009 7:16:40 AM
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Whistler:”DoCS will counsel the mother and the child crimes unit of the NSW Police will consider charging the alleged offenders in the public interest, a certainty should compensation be sought.”

Oh I forgot about VC. It was explained to me once that every foster child is entitled to it – no one makes the claims though.

“The Pied Piper the girl gets her own legislature.”

Nope. She gets single mothers benefit and an independent life. This country, even at 13 would allow a child a baby. Baby bonus, victims compensation payout, 100% subsidised child care etc etc. All the goodies from all the taxpayers.

Retchub; good analogy.

Hey Mary, yes “barrow pushing”, I like the phrase, this is what Linda Burney stepped in to do. DoCS wont do anything for the girl. I can't imagine the police doing anything to the boy either.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Friday, 14 August 2009 7:43:46 AM
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At last, some interesting discussion around the subject, well done all.

Jewels, you raise an interesting point about the response of the state if the girl had become pregnant. It leads to the thought that if she is old enough to take on responsibility for a child she conceives, why is she not old enough to take responsibility for a course of action she conceives? Does anyone doubt she conceived the false rape claim? Why is she not being held to account?

Examinator, the girl through her claim of rape caused massive disruption to the lives of others. While she had little personal power in the situation, she chose a lever to multiply that power and she chose cleverly. As soon as the claim was made, the balance of power in that room shifted dramatically, just as it does for any woman who claims rape or violence. The reason it shifted so dramatically is that the massive victim industry has conditioned us to accept such claims uncritically and has created a huge system of state support for those who make them, which they are constantly working to broaden in scope, largely for self-serving motives.

IOW, simply for making the claim, a woman or girl knows she has a "big sister" or "big mama" in the form of State-sponsored organisations who'll come riding in to squash the opposition, never questioning whether she might be telling porkies.

Who has the "power"?

rehctub, if the girl's mum brought her to you and asked you to help get to the bottom of her behaviour you'd be describing a much more analogous situation. What you described is nothing like it.

I'm all in favour of genuine victims being properly assisted, but as Ms Wills from the NSWRCC demonstrated by her statements, she doesn't care if they're genuine, as long as she can use them to help justify her claim for more money from the taxpayer.
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 14 August 2009 8:16:47 AM
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