OK, back to what you were all doing. Nothing happened. Well, sex yes, but no rape, not even statutory rape. The police should know. Seems this girl and her mother have more serious problems (and presumably more serious crimes to contend with).

Seems Antiseptic was right all along. Sorry to have doubted you, Anti.

Seeker the choices made by the radio station and it's staff are not changed by this. It's still a really poor choice to put something like that live to air.

All
I heard a part of a segment recently on a radio show which seemed to be about telling a loved one something important on air (and in this case over the phone). My recollection of how it went may have minor detail wrong but I think that the guist of it is as it occurred.
A woman is rung by the man she is dating, she finds out that they are on the radio and he has something to tell her. What he tells her is that he cheated some time back. How does she feel to have that broadcast across the country? To have her reaction broadcast as well, she could have hung up but how many of us would think it through on the spot if put in that position. The guy involved has some serious issues to ever think that was a good idea. A radio station has also chosen to provide a vehicle for that to occur with apparently no regard for the position they placed that woman in. I'm not sure but I think that the DJ's comment was something like "That didn't go well".

At what point do we draw the line about involvement of those who have not actively consented to be involved in entertainers grabs for ratings or content? Is putting a child on a lie detector on air Ok? Are gotcha calls Ok? What about the rights of the members of the Melbourne Club when The Chaser tried to get a model of the Govenor General in?

Some really funny comedy seems to involve the reactions of unwitting participants or mocking groups who seem silly. Some involves abusive treatment of others (I like Hamish and Andy but much of their material seems to be based on denegrating each other). Can we draw meaningful lines around on air stunts and if so who makes the call about what's Ok?

R0bert

Hello Seeker, was your comment the result of you watching the ACA interview with the aunties and cousin? If that's so, then you should know that they were offering an opinion. They actually don't know whether the girl was raped. They weren't there. They witnessed nothing. They don't know whether or not she had consenting sex either, they just offered opinions. Nobody here knows whether the girl was raped, not antiseptic, not you, not me, not anyone else here. We're all offering mere opinions based on what we've read and watched.

You wrote "nothing happened", you don't know that. You wrote "well, sex yes", you don't know that. You wrote "but no rape", you don't know that. You wrote "the police should know", not necessarily. Peoples' comments (all peoples' comments) on this site about whether or not she may have been raped, reflects their philosophical position only. In other words our stance on the topic reflects our philosophy towards whether we think young girls in general, are or are not usually truthful when claiming they were raped. In the case of this girl, not one person here knows for sure. It's all "opinion". But often opinion pretending to be fact, just like your post Seeker. Thank you.

Hello Col Rouge, you don't know whether the girl's father is a good or bad father. Neither do I. You presumption that I was inferring he was a bad father is wrong. Just as your list of assumptions that he was a good father was wrong; you don't know that. Neither do I. That's why I was asking. It was a question about where is the father in all this, because nobody anywhere has mentioned him. A perfectly legitimate question. Your answer was just you barrow pushing, presenting the father as noble and presenting the mother as possibly a "skank" who "likes to spend the bounty of the single parents pension". Yes, your answer to my post was a total barrow push by you. Neither you nor I know anything about the character of the father. Thank you.

the radio station is in clear breach of it's licence
for distributing child pornography, to wit
the public interrogation of a minor for profit about sex.

there is no way the City of Sydney
would allow an entrepeneur to sell tickets
to a show at the SCG where the main act is a minor interrogated about sex.

what occurred is child pornography.

Pericles, self-regulation doesn't work with the demographic?
does with equal rights.

The Pied Piper children in your care will never forget you.

MaryE eloquent.

Well, well, well.

Seeker, I didn't actually say I thought the girl was lying in the first place, I was just interested in the response of others to her claim, which I still feel was the only reason there was a public uproar over this.

I wonder whether we'll get Ms Wills from the NSW Rape Crisis Centre apologising for wasting everyone's time and promising to re-think her organisation's response to rape allegations in the absence of evidence? Perhaps they can run some courses for Ms Tankard-Reist in how to pick genuine victims to ride...

R0bert, the sort of intrusive stuff you're talking about is going on daily in all sorts of media. Some people seem to like it and it is quintessentially trivial and ephemeral. Let's face it, how much time does the average listener spend thinking about these stunts after they're over? A case like the one you've described is somewhat impactful on the two stooges, perhaps, but I suspect their relationship was in trouble well before the stunt you mentioned.

My approach is to listen principally to good old Auntie with the occasional switch to a music station whlie driving and leave the other stuff to those who like it.

MaryE, the girl apparently told both her aunts that there was no rape. IOW, it's the closest thing to a fact there is in this whole mess. You were willing to take her unsubstantiated word she was raped, why won't you accept her claim that she wasn't?

If she wasn't, what should be done to compensate Kyle and Jackie O for the trouble she caused? Kyle lost his well-paying job on TV over it, after all? Does he have a cause of action against those who accused him of abusing a rape victim and agitated for his removal?

Whistler:”The Pied Piper children in your care will never forget you.”

It is best they forget quickly. Most are too little to understand the answer when asking me if I can keep them.

Mary:”Nobody here knows whether the girl was raped, not antiseptic, not you, not me, not anyone else here. We're all offering mere opinions based on what we've read and watched.”

Guilty. In my mind I have an image of a young girl with this drama surrounding her social life trying to make it more interesting under far too much pressure in the moment. I have no idea whether to blame anyone without knowing the intent.