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Kyle and Jackie O - a win for public opinion.

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MaryE “Probably ALL the adults involved in the sorry saga are to blame, and I ask where's the father in all of this, or is he deceased? I get the impression from reading many of the comments here that some people here are just using this incident to push their own personal social barrows here.”

And Anansi “Exactly MaryE, were's dad in this sorry saga? Children, since allegedly that one episode some 2000+ years ago, have two parents: a mother and a father. If mother is a skank, as some of you who immediately *knew* where the blame should lie, what is father?”

Maybe the father was out earning an income to support his wife and child(ren).

Maybe the “father” does not know he is a “father” and the skank mother is one of those heroic “single mothers” who likes to spend the bounty of the single parents pension and having screwed up her life, is working on screwing up her daughter’s life too.

Ultimately, I know the “father” WAS NOT in the studio with his daughter, only the mother was there and only the mother was in a position, therefore to intercede or act upon her daughters behalf.

So I suspect it is you who are pushing your own “barrows” MaryE and Anansi.

Pericles “"Don't overestimate the decency of the human race." H. L. Mencken”

Yes, I do not think many people are actually fit to vote but then I prefer to shoulder my own burdens rather than abrogate them to government and others (who are mysteriously appointed to lead and absolve us of individual responsibility by the “human race”)
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 3:46:32 PM
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"(who are mysteriously appointed to lead and absolve us of individual responsibility by the “human race”)"

Couldn't help your self could you, Col.
Posted by RobP, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 4:33:09 PM
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H,
I find it hard to be superior when I have to look into the mirror each day and see another imperfect person staring back.
But that doesn't stop me from trying to be better than I was yesterday.
Or working towards bring out the good in all of us...starting with understanding.

The problem with the world as I see it we are all too keen to display to look down and see the dirt and enduring the detritus of where we've been in it instead of looking up to see the wonder of the night sky and where we can go.

What's wrong with reminding others to look up and concentrate on the Destination not where we've been. Why go to a new world taking our trash with us...we simply make the journey more difficult. and who needs the extra work?

Fractelle,
So long as there is a brain in this decaying body and the knowledge I'll have lots to reflect on. But as Examinator Ant there will always be issues bigger than me or the rest of us ants. :-O

We aren't necessarily as others perceive us to be but we are defined by where we aim to be. One thing for sure we'll never exceed it.
Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 5:23:17 PM
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Examinator

I agree, once we close our minds to both learning and wonder we are lost. I hope you did not take offence to my post - it wasn't meant to be an insult.

A question.

Collectively is the human race greater than the sum of its parts, or are we only as good as the lowest common denominator?
Posted by Fractelle, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 5:40:40 PM
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Well my ponderings about the ACA interview were way off the mark.
Two aunties and a cousin interviewed. I'd seen the girl and her mum on TV previously (one of the few times I'd watched a missings persons shows).

Nothing I saw altered the fundamental problem with putting a child on a lie detector and then going live to air without a delay nor with a professional mouth getting it as wrong as Kyle did. Perhaps the offence can be downgraded from reckless driving causing injury to reckless driving.

The aunties claim that the rape claim was a lie, that the sex was consentual (as much as a 12 year old can consent to sex with a 14 year old). There was some discussion as to why the rape claim was not followed up when and if the mother was initially told but nobody seemed to be able to answer that.

The goal may have been much more about getting access to a lie detector to try and cut through the lies than about Pink tickets.

I got the impression of a family struggling with a child who is not doing well. Possibly getting things wrong but trying to deal with a difficult situation.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 7:10:44 PM
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“Oh don't worry. You'll be corrected. Look out for FoxyMopHandleMama!”

When a small child says to me “I’m not your friend anymore” I get that if they could and if they knew the words the emotion would probably equate to a backhander along with a string of abuse. But they don’t and so my usual thought is “oh how cute”.

“Throw it back at them. Patronise them. Just use lots of phrases like Gong Forward and 'Key Stakeholders'. Just fit them in anywhere, they wont notice. They do the same.”

Mostly they throw “this is important casework” at me. No idea what they’re on about half the time and I suspect neither do they but it matters not to the ones who are not around to witness what their casework brings.

“Then at the end Say, 'I'm taking the child, and his siblings. You can either profit by this, or be destroyed. It's your choice but I warn you not to underestimate my powers.'”

They are hardly likely to overestimate my power since they decide when and how much I have at all times. This is backed up by the hostages they have in my home.

Examin’:”We aren't necessarily as others perceive us to be but we are defined by where we aim to be.”

Bollocks. Sorry ‘ator came straight from the amygdale without explanation.

Fractelle:”Collectively is the human race greater than the sum of its parts, or are we only as good as the lowest common denominator?”

Depends how the collective greats treat the collective lows I’m guessing.

R0bert:"...“(as much as a 12 year old can consent to sex with a 14 year old)”

Hahahahaha…
Posted by The Pied Piper, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 7:20:44 PM
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