Yabby
Unfortunatly it seems that there are ghosts in your brain!
NONE desagree that human brain does not exist from mater, from chemistry BUT THIS CHEMISTRY IS ADVANCED almost fully controled from human beings!
What kind of chemistry will be activated, what part of my brain will be activated DEPRND ON ME. I decide if I will listen music, if I will feel sick from your ideas or if I will love a woman and for what reason I will love her.
The chemistry will serve my decisions, my feelings, my dreams BUT IT WILL NOT DECIDE FOR ME!
HUMAN BEINGS TAKE THE DECISIONS, THEY CONTROL THEIR SELF, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTS NOT THEIR CHEMISTRY.
I found in many cases you have sick ideas for humans and human society.
HUMANS ARE NOT ANIMALS, HUMAN SOCIETY IS NOT A GANGLE.
You are fully responsible for what you say and do, not your chemistry.
Do you understand that? Chemistry under same conditions reacts always with the same way, H2+O=UNDER SAME CONDITIONS ALWAYS GIVE WATER.
While you will try to to steal the property, the wealth of a person may be I will risk my life to protect his property! Or while one day I am ready to thru you to rubish bin the next day I think that I have to respect you even when you have SO BAD IDEAS!
Except if you mean the bad ideas and acts come from chemistry and the good one from your moral code and your basic principles!
For you I will accept it, but I know that you cheat me!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Sorry Antonious, but as passionate as you are, Yabby is correct. Human Beings are a species of animal very similar to the apes. When looking at the bodies and brains of humans and apes, there is no denying the similarities.
However, humans have evolved further along the evolutionary trail than the apes at some point many years ago. They have a far more advanced brain. And yes, most of the functions of our body are controlled by a mixture hormones, environment and history.
Still, there are a fair few male humans around who didn't evolve far enough to take on the responsibility of their actions with a fertile female human!!

ASymeonakis

<< Except if you mean the bad ideas and acts come from chemistry and the good one from your moral code and your basic principles!>>

Kind of like the biblical excuse of the "devil made me do it; using hormones as an excuse for bad behaviour, but taking personal accolades for good behaviour. Do you think Yabby is being a tad hypocritical?

I'm sure that missing fathers use similar excuses to evade responsibility for their children.

Nature versus nurture is a common debate. Far too simplistic. We may start with certain characteristics as birth, for example, I was a very shy timid child, when I tell people this now, they frequently react in disbelief given my lifestyle. However, even now I can feel the old shyness sweep over me like when I meet an actor I am a big fan of. But I can control that tendency, I have learned to assert myself and I can and do take responsibility for my actions. Doesn't mean I don't make mistakes but at least I can account for them rather than blaming my hormones or something. Perhaps that is what is called 'growing up'.

Fractelle
I do not know the reason but I found in your last posts you are more sensitive and calm than in the past I hope and wish you are happy.

Antonios Symeonakis

Fractelle:“A little bit of my history (herstory?) the only time my ex-husband pressured me to get pregnant was when he finally realised I was intent on leaving him, think about that.”

Editor will not allow my heartfelt reply Fractelle, about every second word is banned.

You my lady have been more than morose of late and your posts tinged with regret.

But your view of the world in posts is something I haven’t found fault with, you’re intelligent and sensitive. You have no problem defending how you feel.

Do not drown yourself in this past hurt. This man was not a mirror and his sickness was not a reflection of who you are.

I had a little girl once, gorgeous delicate wee thing, part Maori and only a tiny 18 month old with olive skin and big brown eyes, her hair was very thin, light brown baby hair and she had a beautiful wide smile and a surprisingly deep belly laugh when tickled.

My son (he was about 9 years old then) loved her to bits, each day he got home from school she’d throw herself in to his arms and not leave his side and he would carry her around and spoil her rotten. She called him “dord” (for Jordan).

If she saw me frown she would begin to shake, hold her hands over her head and squat down.

She was returned to parents still broken and without choice.

To all who dare to care:

Thank you

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