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Missing Fathers evade Responsibiliy for their children.

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Hello Yabby, I think the stereotyping and gender profiling of the sexes that results from your apparent sole belief that we're slaves to our hormones, is very similar to, and just as wrong as, the stereotyping and gender profiling that results from the social conditioning theory that STG seems to believe in. It's not either one, or the other. It's both, plus a whole lot more. People will only drop their gender profiling when they gain enough insight to see the WHOLE picture.
Posted by MaryE, Friday, 7 August 2009 12:47:05 PM
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MaryE,

Yeah but testosterone is bad. I think we really should look to eradicate it as much as possible. Just look at rugby league. It's the testosterone that's often blamed. Maybe we should start injecting more males with Estrogen.

If any kid at school shows aggressive behaviour, or wont sit through a reading of war and piece quietly, we should really give them Estrogen rather than ADD medication.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 7 August 2009 1:11:02 PM
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“For we know quite well that hormones affect behaviour. Inject a male with female hormones, his behaviour changes. Inject a female with male hormones, the same thing occurs.”

Dear Yabby and Houellebecq

If only others before you had possessed your wisdom, history would have been changed for the better. Just think if oestrogen had been administered to Hitler, we could have saved six million Jews. Imagine the suffering you could have prevented by feeding oestrogen to Caligula, Tiberius, Nero, Ivan the Terrible, Pol Pot or Idi Amin?

Lets not forget Vlad the Impaler where history gives accounts of impaling, torturing, burning, skinning, roasting and boiling people alive and feeding others the flesh of their friends or relatives. Or nailing people’s hats to their heads and all because of testosterone you say.

Had those who'd gone before you been imbued with such resounding knowledge on hormonal impacts on the human psyche, history could have turned these ignominious brutes into pussy cats.

Thank you good Sirs for sharing that information with us.

"He who overcomes others has strength.....
But he who overcomes himself is strong."
(Lao Tsu)

Tut tut gentlemen!
Posted by Protagoras, Friday, 7 August 2009 2:36:25 PM
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Protagoras
"Ant, I do believe you’re a real SNAG – bless you – ie, a real, “sensitive new age guy!”
I want to be good and sensitive, I try to be good and sensitive BUT I know that some times, few times I AM NOT!
There is a distance between what I say and what I do, a distance bwtween what I want to do and what I realy do, I try to minimize the gap between words and acts but I know I have long way.
While I am not very proud for my self, I know that I am not the worst one on our planet.
The problem with missing fathers will become worst and I am afraid soon or later we will find that the number of missing mothers will grow up.
If we had a better system for the children, FOR ALL CHILDREN from very early, I am sure we could create a better society, a better future.

Fractelle,
I found my self soft, in my personal life, in my home but hard for the general interests. Althougt I am close to sixty I am not sure yet if I know my self enouph and probably NOT!
You are lucky because you seem familiar with your self and you have to deal only with the others.
I know you have advanced knowledges and experiences and good intensions.
We can not change the system if we do not change first our self.
I hope genetic engineering will improve our abilities to understand and control the very basics.
At the moment we are lost.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Friday, 7 August 2009 2:40:46 PM
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ASymeonakis,

'There is a distance between what I say and what I do, a distance bwtween what I want to do and what I realy do, I try to minimize the gap between words and acts but I know I have long way.'

That's one of the nicest, honest and inspiring comments I've seen on OLO. You seem like a really wonderful person.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 7 August 2009 3:04:48 PM
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*Thank you good Sirs for sharing that information with us.*

You are welcome Dickie. You are correct, the entire Australian army
could have been injected with oxytocin, progesterone and oesterogen.
They would have prefered cuddling babies and doing girly things,
rather then deal with the Japanese during WW2. The downside
is that the Japanese in that case could easily have taken over,
turning girls like you into Japanese soldier playtoys, to do as
you are told or die. So be careful what you wish for :)

*gender profiling of the sexes that results from your apparent sole belief that we're slaves to our hormones*

Not so Mary, for my claim has alwasys been that hormones affect
behaviour in a huge way, not that they determine behaviour.
The consious part of your brain is only a small part of what actually
is going on up top. All that brain chemistry affects you and
affects your judgement and decisions, that is the point.

Now just look at the urge that some women have to have a baby, any
baby. Look at the love of a mother for her babies and their wellbeing. Fact is that these things do not just involved rational
and conditioned thoughts, but are part of our genetic make up and
instincts.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 7 August 2009 3:24:45 PM
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