God, is not a single entity and has no regard for us, "why" because you are all eternal beings.
Religion may i add is used to control the masses, those that fall for the con, it has been responsible for more wars and conflict on this planet, and it still goes on between christians and muslims today.
I heard it said, "We are spiritual beings having an earthly human experience." and i for one find that sits quite nicely with me.
I would invite readers to get the 5 set DVD's "What the bleep down the rabbit hole," for any meaningful discussion on Phsyics.
In the meantime i will continue with my earthly experience paying attention to what is going on around me.
Let me further add, humour is the elixer of life, so laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone.

OUG,

I appreciate that you are well read on these matters. You also ask some interesting questions which I also appreciate.

So to better understand where you are coming from please list some of the material you read, regarding creationism. Is the basis of that creationist reading matter - the Bible, or other Abrahmic religious texts?

I saw you as a creationist because you stated "needless to say i am only an ignorant 'creationist' but im aware of my own ignorance" on

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2305&page=0

So you want the recipe for the soup which created mankind? "The soup" as you call it is only one of the theories.

BUT creation is only a theory also based on ancient texts.

In Genesis 8:20 Noah sacrifices 1 of every breeding pair on the ark of the ritually clean animals.

For all you creationists who dare to read this - your BIBLE indicates - Noah, destroyed any chance of each and every ritually clean animal & bird from breeding, burning as a sacrifice, the only other animal or bird of that species on the ark!

So what other books and religions teach the creationist myth as fact?

OUG, I agree with you that evolution too is a theory. People often leave out the words "the theory of" evolution. But evolution is often misunderstood also.

But science at least examines, discusses and corrects itself by vigorous and open debate.

Can you show me where a religious organisation has come out and said "THE BIBLE IS WRONG OR MY RELIGIOUS TEXTS ARE WRONG" Noah burnt as an offering to the Lord any hope of ritually clean species multiplying?

World Wide Announcement : Creationists now know & accept Genesis 8:20 disproves our theory! As a result believers know Abrahamic religious texts now proven totally unreliable!

Blackwattle, Glad to see a spiritual free-thinking person join the discussion. There is so much more to what we know and yet so many people because of fixed viewpoints and "the books" can't see the bigger picture.

You are obviously on a journey of realisation and hopefully not restrained by any particular dogma.

Philo,

Thanks.

OUG,

I think we may have been here before. If there are preditors and prey. The ratio prey-to-preditors needs to higher. If two of each animal came off the Ark; after their release, the carnivores would eat all the prey, then starve to death. In a previous thread, I think you said, that the lions on the Ark were vegitarian lions. Yet, the flood would have killed off the vegies too. What did the animals, all vegitarians, eat? Moreover, if the flood level covered the highest mountain, the atmosphere would too rarified for life. If God had ulimate foresight, is it intelligent design to create something only to wipe it out, with knowledge of the same?

I would suggest that tree rings indicate trees older than 6,000 years.

What of the COBE photograph, of the 380,000 year old univeserse, as predicted by physics?

Thanks opiniated 2.
Having reached out of the four season of life, winter, then one learns to give great thought to the business of life.
So i have learned to live alone without being lonely, in any relationship people seek to gain something from it, and that's fine while it works.
We then arrive at the gateway of what is truth, what do we believe in, what kind of information can you rely on in a world of spin, half truth,
out right lies and deception.
This is not an easy question to answer because its a personel thing which we experience as individuals and where we are at on a consciouse level, very difficult to put into words without making a goose of myself.
For more of a better word let me quote Mahatma Gandhi.
"One needs to be slow to form convictions, but once formed they must be defended against the heaviest odds". unquote

seems..no one wants to debate..the THEORY that removes god from the picture...so were going on to..the topic others can..comment on...not one that proves their science..[because..evolution/theory's..full of holes ..

but wish..to talk about the holes..they..can poke into tired/old texts]...when the dsiscusion is re..the DESIGNER EGSISTING...meaning its either god..[or]..evolution..ok lets talk about the bible and other texts..that talk of floods

these are local events...when it is said everyone dies...its meaning the whole nation..dies..[no one cares about their enemy dying..[right]

instead of talking science..lets talk about fables...lol..ok

i have..[at last count ..over 10 years ago 19,000 books in my libary...this was pre my god-stage..of my life...and they mainly were re the sciences,i have maybe arround 500..[uncounted guestimate of many new age type books/bibles/and other holy texts from the koran/bagdavita/to arcania celestia,..and a lot of new age type works as well as bibles..but that is of no relivance to../science or god debait

i dont know how many times/i need to rebut../ask..explain/..WHERE THE BIBLE SAYS 6000 years...its not in the books..im here to rebut those believing science..to replace god...

present your science...im only a novice...[in religion]...ask your priests

dont believe me..[chose as you will]..hear the quote
direct from one of your own...

OPINIONATED 2 quote<<..OUG,I agree with you that evolution..too..is a theory.>>

<<People often leave out the words.."the theory of"..evolution.>>

<<But evolution...is often misunderstood also..>>..yes it is..as previously posted...by..the believers...in/of evolution...[who arnt science inclined..cant tell their species from their genus]...and then think they are so clever rejecting god...lol...saying its science...when thats simply..their FAITH..in a god/free creation...they somehow feel more real..than their faulse images of the TRUE creator.

<<But science..examines,discusses and corrects itself by vigorous and open debate.>>>if true/science/..[by true scientists..yes]..

they..evolve their theories...

BUT the mindless drones..who have their deluded faith's../in evolution..are as FIXED IN THEIR FAITH..[in a theory]..as any religious kook is...fixed in their faith

im only seeing distractions..and closed minds...even the pope is in the same camp..as..the god-free/THEORY..

evolution's/athiests...and the pope...jesus wept...all decieved..putting their blind-faith..in science,...unthinkingly..[unquestionly]..faithfully...

blind leading the blind..and not a faulsifyable fact between them

Dear OUG,

The six thousand years age of our liitle blue planet is reportedly "derived" from the Bible:

http://www.missiontoamerica.org/genesis/six-thousand-years.html

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ussher.htm

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/6000yearsofEarthshistory.html

The above is merely an orthodox Christian belief. Of course, many modern Christians would agree with the secularists, that the Earth is more like four billion years old. The universe much older still.

Isn't the COBE photograph remarkable. WE are lucky to live now.

Our sun is a third generation star and our atoms have been the matter of past stars. Moreover,our bodies are composed in part of previous dead matter, more than one thousand years old, including a few atoms from significant people in history (Davies). Including, Jesus