Let me Guess, Secular is now Sectarian- Multi Culturalism is Orwellian, and actually means The Third World Reich – and the return of Witchdoctorats, and the Barbarians – To New Age religious dictates of Lawyernesses, Useless Idiots and Global Warming - To Socialism and the Lobotomised class Morons because of it; Jostle for power and control.
If you thought you can invent the metaphysics and re-engineer it to suit your own egocentric and depraved idiocies, then what you create is the new Frankenstein Monster , in a world of the Fiction ;- as interpretations , are construed to be engineered reality.
If you have lost your ability to appreciate what it was that existed and how it became so, then Secular sectarians destroy themselves.
I think it could be said ; Looted out of existence , to when the Barbarians want their pound of blood.

All? WTF? Could not understand a single word. Stay off the sauce when you're posting.

Gosh , Jayb , I am surprised, rattle the rocks between your ears, and just maybe, a single neuron will operate, , If one exists ;- but I doubt it . Just bovine excrement , fumigating ; You have to concede that; if only, we could put brains into a statue, but we cannot make it think; - mother nature, be as it is, can only make you decompose , and has , I have to end it there Graham may become upset ; but at least in a public domain I will state that;- you are Fowl pathetic pipsqueak.
And stink; and you reek, and poking holes in the Ozone layer. You Oxygen thief.
You green house gas accelerator, and intellectual dud.
But thank you for proving the point of the antipathy of brain-dead. You have graduated with masters and PhD.
Gold medal winner. Mr Flatulence, But No - you are platinum Jayb. Insects are more polite, and far more intelligent than you. And vomit has more appeal, and has more personality, and its constitution has more gumption than you.
A parasite Of Swine flu, and Media and Government broadcast proportions.
I am being polite Jayb.

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All,
Last post rather over the top. However a good point in your previous post "Let me Guess, Secular is now Sectarian". Absolutely true in Jayb's case as he/she has become another cultural identity in our multicultural society. Secular has taken on another identity to mean opposed to the spiritual aspects of life. It by its strong vocal opponents of spiritual reality have become another cult in our multicultural society who want their will imposed above all others and it to be enforced by law.

At one time in my lifetime all religions included secular aspects to living within their broad world view to mean aspects of life that related to natural survival i.e. work, play etc. On this thread it has come to means an Atheistic world view as demonstrated by Jayb opposed to the spiritual.

Opinionated2:"...religious underachievers."

Love that phrase, I'm stealing it in future to describe myself.

Hey what if, given free will was bestowed, any God wanted us to grow up and evolve in to beings that no longer depended on Gods?

Like any good parent wanting their children to become independant, believe in themselves and cut the apron strings.

jayb<<Under one God.I gather that you are saying that as a Christian, "Christians" have a monopoly on "Goodness." Everyone else, of course,..is a Godless liar/fornacaterer/murerer/Drug addict/thief, etc, etc.>>no dear darling jay..dont put words into my mouth

im not of any particular religiously held belief..[i dont put one messengers words before any other...i love em all...may peace be upon them all]

see they each have their teachings..ans while it is true that to each nation was sent its own messenger...each nation yet got its unique teaching...meant to preserve the teaching..till in time we unite the good fruits of all the teachings and unite under the one god

we know from swedenborg..[for egsample]that each has two angels...[one of the darkside/one of the light...witness 'all'.s response..to reveal that in a moment of weakness.he allowed his dark angel free expression,this is clear by the agressive word choice he chose to reply your unreasond comments with

just as your allowing your dark side expression in the words you used...that i chose to quote...but so are we all..capable of supreem good[or ill]..

depending on which of our two protectors we chose to listen to...im ignoring the rantings of my darkside..to write you these kind words...and wether we chose to believe..[or chose to reject]..the revealations of swedenborg...thats simply the way it is

of course all the messengers had right and wrong teachings[its up toi us eacxh to sort the wheat[good]...from the good angel...from the tares bad angel

the fruit of the tree reveals the tree is good or not..by knowing the difference[good from not good...we sort the sheep from the goats..[the wheat from the tares]...by your other fruits[posts] i see basiclly your tree leans to the good...even if your roots are in the earthy muck...but so are we ALL