That is their nature Philo, all encumbered synthetic falsehoods, and fabrications, and as you state in your life experiences , the principle was to live within the decency of life as we were taught- to survive – search for true knowledge and respect of others ;

Some just need to be reminded how insignificant and stupid they are, and if there is nobody left to tell them, it mutates into crypto Marxian syntheses that becomes a finite threat to the whole existence, and the delicate fabric of society; It is almost a Past hence Philo; It has already occurred ;-

I don’t apologise for responding to absolute rudeness, and maybe they will be a bit more considerate next time; - to discuss issues , and not engage in a simpletons denial and Assert Guilt tripping as a default response because their cognitive ability is restricted to that of an Automaton.

WoW! Thanks All. It's nice to know I'm appreciated & worthy of so much praise. I surly don't know what I've done to deserve it, but thanks anyway.
I bet you're feeling it today. The only cure for a hangover is to drink copious amounts of water & pee a lot. Stay in bed. Best of luck.

Under one god. Swenenborg? Has anyone pointed out to you that he was a "failed" Philopher & Inventor.

Most people lean towards their Better Angels. Just because people are not, God fearing, White Anglo-Saxon, Right Wing, Southern Baptists from Idaho doesn't mean that their roots are in the muck. I believe that people can chose to believe in any religion, or not, God, or not, & still be good.

It's the "Dogma" that comes with a particular belief system, regardless of what that system is, that determens how we treat other people. Some peoples Dogma Systems make demands on other peoples Dogma systems that are unreasonable. Some Dogma System are unworkable within another Dogma System. Therefore it is unreasonable to expect one Systems Dogma to accommodate all of another Systems Dogma within the parent or adopted Dogma System. (a bit unweildly but you get the point)

If I go to Middle East. I cannot drink alchol, teach the Bible, Go mixed swimming, hold hands with my wife in public. No ifs or buts, it would be jail & a public whipping. They make no alowances for other religious sensibilities. In the Western World we are being forced to bend over backward to accommodate other Dogmas, but only so as not to interfear with the other Dogmas. Sometimes the West is caught between a rock & a hard place.

Is it reasonable for a people to leave a repressive Dogma Society for a Society with a nonrepressive Dogma then demand that their adopted society adopt their repressive Dogma. The very on they escaped from for a better life?

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I watched a wonderfully uplifting movie last night. "Bend it Like Beckham." It work on so many levels. One level is this very topic.

"ALL"

"search for true knowledge." Of course that "true knowledge" would only be in line with YOUR Dogma.

"and respect of others;" Ah ha! the basic tenet of a true Demacratic Society. You don't have to believe in a God to have that.

"simpletons denial." What of? GOD? A figment of imagination created & asserted by a certain types of people to CONTROL others into following their Dogma.

"and Assert Guilt tripping." What the high priests of all religion use to CONTROL others.

How ever all this has nothing to do with the original question.

"How far should a secular multi-cultural society go to accommodate religious sensibilities?"

Can we get back to the question & ignore the red herrings put up by "ALL" & "under one God?"

I just have to laugh Jayb , you are funny , Do you actually know what dogma is Jayb ?

Do you know what anything is Jayb?

Pied Piper,

Why didn't you refer to yourself also as a homophobe?

You said this "I find them to be completely about sex and not about love, partnership, or the rights of people who are gay or lesbian."

Where do you find them and please release the details of the survey you undertook to deliver such an amazingly ill-informed statement!

IF the alleged GOD wanted humans to grow up and cut the apron strings as you ask...then he/she/it failed at that too.

The average believer of the Abrahamic religions actually believe their God murdered the firstborn of Egypt (the passover) Exodus 12:29, or drowned almost everyone in Noah's flood Genesis 7:24 OR allowed Moses to ordered the mass murder & ethnic cleansing in Numbers 31:17-18.

These crazy religions have their institutions teach this rubbish as fact.

What does that say about these religions?

What does it say about the members of these religions?

Will God say to their preachers and members "Are you all nuts, What disgusting minds could allow you to believe such things of me? How could you believe that I, your loving GOD, could do such things, or allow such things?"

If anyone believes or teachers these fabrications then aren't they the ultimate blasphemers?

Why are the religious amongst us so forceful in their comments on others, when they sit in their religious organisations and believe such tripe?

BUT worse - Why do those who are religious and know this stuff is garbage still attend the institutions that continue to teach this as fact?

Seems to me the greatest failures to a loving GOD (if one exists) are the preachers and the followers of Abrahamic religions.

If a religious person allows their loving GOD to be misrepresented by these falsehoods aren't they pitifully weak individuals?

Why are religious people such cowards and scared to confront the falsehoods taught about their God?

How can anyone, with even half a brain, believe this rubbish from the old dusty religious teachings of ancient man?

This morning, while reading the on line news, maybe it was in goggle news, an American story shocked me.
It should shock us all.
It said an 8 year old girl, raped in the USA by youths from her own race and religion, had been disowned by her family.
For shaming them.
No family, any color any creed could shame themselves more than these people did by that single action.
No I do not hate them, you should not either, they know no better , educated to follow a fantasy, a God, without a heart , they too are victims.
Sorrow and disgust? yes but hate, no.
One day man will be brave enough to ask is it time we stood firm against all religion?
In my heart I think that time is near , war murder deaths in the name of Gods now one day we will free ourselves from our childhood fantasy's and be one .
Christians should not be smug, history tells of just as bad acts, and modern history is full of child rape, even parents who refused to believe children or stop it happening.
Some parents have let children die rather than break questionable rules invented by questionable reildgions.