Seemingly we have ceased to offer constructive suggestions on how to effectively manage the issue of boat people arriving on our shores.

Once winter arrives and with recent rains, Australians tend to forget that this nation’s present carrying capacity is unsustainable and already ecologically overloaded.

Our government policies to grow population despite environmental degradation, will eventually produce exactly the same conditions in rich countries as exist in third world countries.

Nevertheless, we have a duty to honour our humanitarian obligations but we need to learn from other countries which are floundering with the influx of illegal refugees.

Refugee ghettoes are springing up all over Europe. Afghans, Eritreans, Somalis, Sudanese, Iranians, Nigerians and Kurds etc are sleeping rough all over Europe.

It’s been estimated that tens of thousands of refugees have died over the years under tragic circumstances as they attempted to migrate from Africa to Europe.

Three boats trying to make their way to Italy in March this year, capsized with 300 – 500 people still missing. Hundreds of Rohingya (Burmese Muslim) refugees are feared dead after being pushed back into the sea during January, by Thai authorities, according to human rights activists based in Thailand.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics advises our population swelled by 389,000 in the year to September 2008. NSW now has over 7 million people with the highest rate of people fleeing the state to reside elsewhere in the nation. May figures for the nation revealed 660,000 are now unemployed – up nearly 40% from last May.

Either we drastically reduce our immigration programme including the return of economic refugees to their homelands, to accommodate a burgeoning increase of genuine refugees, persecuted in their own countries, or we all go down the gurgler together in the not too distant future.

The Greens think they have the solution: stop Australians 'breeding' and take in all comers.

From Government numbers I saw some time ago which did not take into account recent record migration targets, around a quarter of Australia's population is from a non-English speaking background (NESB) and 55% of new births are to the same group. This being so, maybe the Greens' next 'initiative' could be de-sexing migrants and refugees on arrival so even more can come.

“... I give callers from Indian call centres short shrift. For no other reason that I cannot understand them. There was a TV detective show recently that I could not understand either. It was Scotish and I had to give that the flick.”

What a surprise you insular freak.

“We have to make it unattractive to come and not worth the effort or risk/cost. They have no right to force themselves on us!”

Well then, send them all laptops and set up OLO with this thread as a homepage as it's about as unattractive as it gets.

“I forgot to ask. What would you do and how would you make it work?”

Based on your response I would tell them to paddle screaming for NZ if they wanted to be treated any better than cattle.

Banjo I am so sorry.

I kind of write my first response that comes to mind and then usually write another one that is the one I am going to post and just then I cut and pasted the wrong one to you.

Really sorry and feel like a complete idiot now if it's any consulation.

stormbay
1. I put the question about aborigines because I support aborigines and I wanted to grab the opportunity and promote their interests.
Your posts was not helpfull at all, in realy they was the worst posts I could expect from an aborigine. I decided to push you closer to aborigines to remind you your responsibilities to aborigines people.
2. Your posts was hard against boat people and very sensitive for their wifes, for the muslim women.
As you know in australia we have a huge problem with aborigines children. Indigenous children are six times as likely to be abused as non-indigenous children, child abuse among indigenous children have more than doubled from 16 per 1000 children in 1990-2000 to 35 per 1000 in 2007-2008. I do not understand why you are so sensitive about muslim women and you did do anything from this forum to promote the rights from the litle, lovely abused aborigines children, for me the abuse of the litle aborigines children is number one national problem and WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN AND OUR NAME INTERNATIONALY.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/nickbryant/

3."They get very angry if you tell them they can't treat women as they wish," Do you think only boat muslims behave with this way or all muslim men? If all muslim men then what do you suggest, to expel all muslims? If you realy interested for muslim women then do not understand that for them is many times better to live in australia than in their countries?
4. From your posts I found that you are against Greens, Democrats, Labours and Liberals I do not know your opinion about One Nation, How can you promote aborigines interests when you are against all political parties, even the most friendly of them as Democrats or Greens?
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

I have to wonder if the boot was on the other foot? If for some reason our country was a place dangerous to our children and lots of people sought refuge overseas.Luckily it is very unlikly.As an island we have no land borders-an advantage: and despite the truth or not that the Japanese were going to invade and settle it's excess population by force here,it could be possible in the future that the billons in an Asian coutry might try to do just that.Lets count ourselves to be compassionate enough to welcome genuine refugees and allow their children to grow up and defend their adopted land.Would that we could swap some of "crims" and bludgers for hard-working immigrants.