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Ten Thousand Boat People!

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Belly
The "40%of Australians are racists " is not mine but the finding from an 11 years study of Australian Universities. The study finished few months before, ask professors how they found it. I trust them!

"You proudly in this and other threads tell us you have joined the Democrats, are you aware that horse is dead?"
Belly all australians know that Labour and Liberal leaders are milionaires, that these parties are corporation's servants!
Australians are sick from labours and liberals and they try to find an other party.
Australian citizens are the big boss, they can make the democrats first and labours last, if they want it!
Do not you know that democrats are reorganizing, rebiulding the party, that they are opening the doors to australians, that they are honest, they know to listen and respect our people?
Very soon Democrats will show their power!
Do you know that in last elections for European parliament in UK, democrats was second and labours third?
I am sure the future belongs to democrats!
Women, migrants, aged people and youths are the first one who will support the democrats, very soon will follow many other groups.
Yes I am proud because I am not Labour or Liberal and I AM EVEN MORE PROUD BECAUSE I AM DEMOCRAT!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 5 July 2009 7:54:46 PM
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From Max we have just received a post that shows how fear and paranoia rules "some" peoples' attitudes towards refugees.

Let's see what Max has just said:

Max typed: "Is it paranoia if someone IS after you?"

Master replies: There you go, in his own words he actually believes they (refugees) are "after us". PARANOIA rules Max's thinking.

Max typed: "You slap the racist label on anyone who disagrees with you".

Master replies: Umm Maxie dear boy - - - if you engage your brain for once you'll see that just 2 posts above your last post I wrote "It's not racism". Now Max, do you know the meaning of the word "not"? It seems you don't. Maybe you should seek advice from a patient and understanding acquaintance on the meaning of "It's NOT racism". Your lack of ability to both read and comprehend, as displayed by some of your recent posts on various subjects, is very funny.

Max typed: "Are you wrong to be scared as the house collapses around you?"

Master replies: Max is scared because he fears Australia is collapsing around him. That's pure PARANOIA and FEAR. Utterly ILLOGICAL thinking. And very, very sad actually - - -because poor ol' Max believes it.

Max typed, "this nation changing rapidly, and problems blowing up, "all" due to an excessive "immigration" intake".

Master replies: AHHH, now Maxie's "real" motivation shows through. It's not just refugees he fears and loathes, it MIGRANTS. And he believes "ALL", I repeat, "ALL" changes and problems in Australia are due to an excessive immigration intake. He thinks MIGRANTS are to blame. * * MIGRANTS * *. Not just refugees, but MIGRANTS.

His comments are an ode to PARANOIA and ILLOGICAL FEAR.

Gee Maxie, you should maybe do a bit of extra 'thinking' before you type. Foot in mouth Maxie. So funny, yet so sad.
Posted by Master, Sunday, 5 July 2009 8:05:13 PM
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Master
Maximillion worry for the big changes in the synthesis of australian population, he is afraid that one day he will have to live whithougt race privileges, that one day all bastard migrants,( including me) will be enouph strong to claim and find their rights.
I understand his worries BUT it is very late for him, even if we stop the migration, if we stop all refugees, even then, very soon the migrants, the non anglo will be the majority in australia of cause their high berth rates.
THERE IS NO WAY TO REVERSE THE HISTORY!
I feel sorry for Maximillion, he is not so bad as he seem, I think he realized the australian reality last years and since then he is very scary!
Do not worry my good friend we (migrants) are not canibals, we will respect and protect your rights!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 5 July 2009 9:00:39 PM
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The simplistic, childish, abusive responses above demonstate exactly my point.
And to then claim to be able to know what I think or feel is consistent too.
You’ll again notice no reasoned discussion of any points, no refutation or questioning, no supporting rationale, nada, just sneers and denigration.
I rest my case
Posted by Maximillion, Sunday, 5 July 2009 9:12:55 PM
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Max, the reason why you're treated this way is because you offer NO REASONING WHATSOEVER to back up what is essentially "paranoia".

If you can logically prove that Australia is "blowing up" and it's "ALL" (your word) due to migration, you could be treated seriously.

If you could logically prove migrants are "after you", you could be treated seriously.

If you could logically prove that I think you're "racist", then you could be treated seriously on the "racist" charge.

If you could logically prove the Australian "house is collapsing" because of migration, then you could be treated seriously.

Max, one CAN'T debate seriously, or effectively, against "PARANOIA".

Your comments show a paranoia against, and fear of, MIGRANTS and REFUGEES.

NO amount of logic will change your mind, unless you open your heart and mind to the suffering of others.

It's basically NOT racism, it's just plain old "MEANISM".
Posted by Master, Sunday, 5 July 2009 9:34:48 PM
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“Maybe that's why we have him now typing an AMAZING list of professional qualifications that he "claims" to possess.”

Master, I claim two normal qualifications and membership of three professional organisations, no different to thousands of others. To an empty shell, it would be "AMAZING". You can fit a lot in when you don't get educated until your 30's and have trouble fitting the box provided. Amazingly there's millions of others worldwide in the same situation.

“Indeed, for a good many of them there is NO procedure in place for them to apply to come here.”

NGO, UN or welfare organisations have access to, can direct to, or organise UN refugee application status anywhere they operate in the world. It's how this country gets it's deserving bona-fide refugee's. Boat people pay thousands of dollars for a boat, transit, accommodation and living awaiting embarkation. Those resources could support their families whilst awaiting refugee classification in one of the safe countries they come through. Most are opportunist queue jumpers, so don't have a hope of attaining refugee status or any other visa, or they'd fly in and over stay. They use resources needed to assist genuine refugee's get here, that's my sole consideration for wanting them stopped. Real refugee's don't make demands, they're so happy to be here, a little confused, yet eager to fit in and a pleasure to assist.

Antonios, you're not a refugee or boat person and like others here, think you know more about my ancestry than me. You know nothing about us, like others you ignorantly contrive what you want to believe represents Australian indigenous. Declaring you know how we write, express, communicate and how we should act. You and others express a symptomatic response of racist bigotry, which can be predicted by a lack of communicative interaction with people of other races.
Posted by stormbay, Sunday, 5 July 2009 9:36:47 PM
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