Fair shake of the sauce bottle CJ, I would have thought you were doing just fine with groupies in the feminist camp. And you go to the pub?! Guess you’re more human than we sometimes allow.

Fractelle, I don’t think you can "can can on the head of a pin". Did you perhaps mean pimp?

Cornflower, the Government of Queensland
agreed to the enactment
of the Constitution of Australia
by a Westminster Parliament in 1901
which prohibited the attendance of women.

It was the clear intention of this Parliament
that the Constitution provide
for men's legislatures only.

The Constitution has never been amended
to provide for women's legislatures,
neither has the Government of Queensland
ever annulled its agreement to the doctrine
of the Constitution.

Australian men extended membership
of their Federal legislatures to women,
under male supervision, with the enactment
of the Commonwealth Franchise Act 1902.

In the continuum from the granting of franchise
to the achievement of their own legislature
it is both wise and expedient that women achieve
positions of leadership
under the supervision of those male colleagues
who elect or appoint them to such positions.

Fractelle - as many as can can-can on the head of a pine? How about Samba on a sewing needle?(ouch!)

@ Romany

Is that 'pine'-apple or 'pine'-cone?

@ Seeker

What the hell are you talking about? Have you never heard the philosophical question asking how many angels can dance upon the head of a pin? Or were you drawing an extremely nebulous link between the actions of NRL coaches and pimping? Please edify.

@ Whistler

Are you saying Julia Gillard is under male supervision? Seriously doubt that. Although I agree that until women achieve 50/50 representation with the men-folks we cannot consider women to have equity with men.

I think what I am getting from Whistler that it doesn't matter what women do or who they are if they still are under male legislation? It distrubs me no end and and even now I still don't get it.

Hey Fractelle, I found it... I had heard the saying lots and was surprised to find the needle thing. Head of a pin sounds more pleasant.

"And Schibler with others, maketh the difference of extension to be this, that Angels can contract their whole substance into one part of space, and therefore have not partes extra partes. Whereupon it is that the Schoolmen have questioned how many Angels may fit upon the point of a Needle?"

Pied Piper- my understanding is that the person with most of the custody gets less money from their ex-partner for every time that the kids stay with the ex. Sabotaging these visits means more money in their pockets.

Fractelle- a principle isn't a principle until it costs you something. I have known far too many women who wear the 'feminist' label and choose to emphasise only choice and self confidence. Choice means doing whatever they want and self confidence means telling other women what they want to hear. It is hard not to be cynical.

You also claim to be a humanist. What has this cost you? You might consider forgoing the advantages that you enjoyed in your divorce as a woman.