“Oh, I see, Fractelle can call me psychologically damaged, misogynist, generally defective, but if I respond it's "crappy". Nice double standard, Jewels...”

Anti, at any moment for any reason I may just come across a post and respond. It had nothing to do with the debate at hand.

As to what you were called I will translate in to mummyspeak: “I don’t care if they did it first, I am talking to you”

“As it happens, I was referring to the fact that "counseling" is a waste of time and money that inevitably takes years because there is not actually any aim in mind or a defined problem, let alone a defined solution or end condition for the "counselee".”

That was a big arsecovering lie.

“In a nutshell, it's a self-indulgence for the self-obsessed, of whom Fractelle is a prime exemplar, it seems to me.”

Cut it out. I find Fractelle to be lovely but also didn’t find you to be that bad either.

“As for your "little man", I'd like to hope that by the time he reaches manhood this whole mess created by extreme feminism will have been properly sorted out, but I have grave doubts that it can be done in less than a couple of generations. That means that unless he's a very "feminine" boy he's likely to find himself in the lower half of school outcomes, leading to limited opportunity to do anything other than menial, semi-skilled or trade work since he's unlikely to be allowed to achieve the marks to attend uni.“

He’s a grubby little bugger who very young has good ball handling skills. It appears he is doomed. How come I know other young males that are doing just fine here? Mine own boy is doing very well, could have been better if his father paid his child support but hey not that he suffered.

I should add, to be fair, he paid it and never had a problem with paying it for years until he met a woman who did object to his money going in any direction but hers.

TPP:""I don’t care if they did it first, I am talking to you""

Yet you've never "talked" to her... As I said, double standards are ugly.

You may know some young men doing OK, but the facts are very clear - Australian women at uni outnumber Australian men by 50%. IOW, for every 2 men, there are 3 women and that gap is increasing rapidly.

What do we hear from the Feminists about this? There are more men than women senior academics, so that means women are disadvantaged...

So much for equality.

Maybe the counselling was a waste of time and money in Anti's case - but who knows, he might have been even less well adjusted to his circumstances if hadn't undertaken it (heaven forbid).

Antiwomen:

Saturday, 18 July 2009 1:17:35 PM << women now represent 55 per cent of all university students >>

Saturday, 18 July 2009 3:20:29 PM - << the facts are very clear - Australian women at uni outnumber Australian men by 50%. IOW, for every 2 men, there are 3 women and that gap is increasing rapidly >>

Now which one of those is true? Besides having a huge chip on his shoulder about women, the poor chap's also numerically challenged.

Have you got a degree, Antiwomen? If you do, with your maths I imagine it's not in science or engineering.

Why the particular beef about women studying at uni?

Fractelle, please let me rephrase my earlier claim. I believe that there is an opportunity for women to misuse domestic violence. I believe that women have incentives to sabotage access visits involving any children. If you did-not take these opportunities, then I must apologise.

the transference of knowledge to women
in preparation for an equal rights republic
is breathtaking in its equilibrium.
every third student is allegedly male
every third senior academic is inferred female
is this utopia or what!

“Yet you've never "talked" to her... As I said, double standards are ugly.”

You and Fractelle having a debate is one thing but you making a snide comment when she was being very honest was shameful.

I’m starting to think your wife wasn’t very nice at all and that you used to be.

I find Australia and its attitudes extremely sexist... your media, your sports, you… I’m shocked to hear after 20 years parents still telling their boys “don’t hit girls” – instead of “don’t hit anyone” and the other day “boys are more like girls these days, in my day they wouldn’t cry…” was said to me. I hate hate hate this.

The balance has gone. Teen girls in nasty fist fights, boys still letting girls hit them. Boys still calling her girls sluts for exactly the same behavior they have but then there are more words to call girls aye.

If a change in this society is a feminist plot then your Aussie Feminists better pick up the pace. And for pity’s sake get some men into DoCS.