Sancho, you are the one with no interest in objective facts.
I assist friends who have been done over by the CSA.
I don't have to condone the habitual non-payers, I just recognise the baseline in the graph. The CSA never has and never will get money from them, so why pay CSA to pretend they might one day, it is effectively "spending money on" the non-payer. Use the money on the families directly, thereby actually helping.

By done over, I mean the specific cases in which a regular payer (not actually shirkers, whistler, you ignorant twit), presented with a wrong assessment, is converted by CSA's inability to fix it, into a non-payer. These are a substantial subset of non-payers and my specific reason why the CSA should have less rather than more power. I cannot give names as these are Family Court matters, but the '07-'08 annual report of the Ombudsman's office gives a case study that I would regard as entirely typical, if bland in not mentioning the sharp practice CSA indulge in. The sharp practice undermines the CSA's capacity to go to court, so further disadvantaging the payees, rather than helping.

The new review provisions are a good step, but in no way address old cases.

I would attend meetings as witness, assist with a spare room, the bomby car. More experienced now, I simply advise to never speak on the phone, insist on written dealings and take a recorder to any meetings, which will be immediately cancelled on sight of the recorder. The deadlock thus imposed by the CSA's refusal to correct has let some FC matters proceed, permitting shared care and subsequent freeing of both parents from a degrading cycle of government interference.

CJ:“…I was particularly struck by comments from the Qld coach prior to the game that they'd be targeting NSW players who were recovering from injuries.“

You’re kidding, that is so shameful. Do you think the players ever question their own ethics? The game must be their life and everything they live for while part of a team. I bet something goes on where they know this is wrong and unsportman like and basically underhanded behavior. I’m starting to feel sorry for them now.

“Mind you, it did include the best non-try I've ever seen :)”

Oh see I wouldn’t have known what I was watching and didn’t understand the rest of it. The first Rugby game I watched when I got here (cause I had some Maori boys staying and they made me) I saw a Maori on the Oz team spit at the Haka and then later the dude he spat at got him a beauty. Was personal but the reason was clear. Oz won that one. My boys were all sad and I didn’t get it, half the Oz team were Maoris but when I pointed this out I got laughed at.

Maybe I am okay not being able to understand sport. Maybe not...What is a non-try?

Rusty:“I assist friends who have been done over by the CSA.”

Wish you had been around to help me, CSA did me over completely.

A-septic claims:

<< Like you, I'm well over my divorce. >>

A-S

I humbly suggest that you reread your posts, you are clinging to the past, blaming everyone (except yourself), creating conspiracies out of your embittered imagination... then you have the temerity to claim the above.

You have every right to question a system such as CSA which is clearly failing many people - but your methods are specious and your approach offensive to many decent people (men and women) who are doing the best they can under policies which have no basis in reality and brings out the worst in people when they try to enforce these procedures. I and many others have made sincere suggestions as to where you could place your energy in lobbying for change, but you appear impervious to anyone's opinion that does not dovetail completely with your own - that feminism is to blame for everything wrong in society. There is overreaction and appalling behaviour on the part of both men and women. Your continual complaint about women does nothing to create the solidarity which is desperately needed if we are to do the very best for our children.

Piper

I only follow Aussie Rules, have watched "Thugby" it lacks the flow and finesse of AFL and I really don't get scrums (homoerotic or what?). I would like Soccer if it flowed more and scored more (and the fans didn't beat up on each other). So I am the wrong person to ask about the other codes, being a Southerner an' all.

I understand what you mean about being alone. I have experienced more loneliness living with someone than I do now, where I have my own place and space.

If posters must be spiteful, please at least be funny. For example, "what a shame we can’t all have the privilege of divorcing the likes of Fractelle". Having said that, I have nothing against her, she actually has empathy for divorced men. There seems to be too many people who dismiss their anguish too lightly. People who identify as feminists should be especially concerned, as this issue is doing huge damage to the reputation of their movement.
These men have every reason to blame feminism. They advocated to get the domestic violence system that we have now. It is based on faulty assumptions about the role of female partcipants and there are too many incentives to lie about domestic violence. Feminists are also responsible for child support arrangements that reward women for sabotaging access visits.
If we know that divorced people are often vindictive and financially vulnerable, why make it so easy for one party to hurt the other? Further to this, can we please have some sympathy for these men?

“So I am the wrong person to ask about the other codes, being a Southerner an' all.”

You’re a southerner Fractelle? Nup, I don’t know what that means just a general direction to the left of where I am sitting in my kitchen.

“I understand what you mean about being alone. I have experienced more loneliness living with someone than I do now, where I have my own place and space.”

I know – there’s no one there but you’re still doing a full load of washing, crazy stuff. My current husband spent months at a time working overseas and that was cool, missed him but had my alone time. One morning when he had been away – don’t tell anyone – I woke up with a book in one hand and a melted chocolate biscuit in the other. Ah the freedom.[smile]

Benk:”Further to this, can we please have some sympathy for these men?”

I do, the silly sausages do need to learn how to further their cause without attacking anyone elses. Bless them, they wont change.

"Feminists are also responsible for child support arrangements that reward women for sabotaging access visits."

Clever bitches, how'd they do that?

CJ, 'I was particularly struck by comments from the Qld coach prior to the game that they'd be targeting NSW players who were recovering from injuries.

A noble game, and a great example to us all.'

Why you sly old dog CJ, what is with the false modesty? Are you angling for a compliment or what?

Alright then I will say what everyone is thinking: CJ, when it comes to playing the man and not the ball you are the greatest and none of those footy jocks could hold a candle to you.

Of course they have to do it in the open and man to man, whereas a old bushwacker like you can work your cunning stunts from the relative safety of your bedsit.