Speaking of whining losers... and I wasn't referring to you, Maximillion.

Still no names of at least some of the corporate high flyers who were formerly high-level footballers, Antiwomen? I would've thought that would be a doddle for someone with such prodigious research skills, given your claim that "...most, if not all, the high flyers played football at a high level".

Mi tingting yupela tok mauswara tasol.

“As for another of those funny but uninstructive TPP comment… Unless these legally trained thoobs can stop their longer-haired non-feminist groupie comrades entering team changing rooms and male toilets at clubs and pubs where footballers frequent to expose themselves, what possible good can they be? Evil, bovine, or otherwise – it matters not.”

I couldn’t instruct anyone Seeker, I don’t fully understand the issue. Anti suggests this is a feminist plot for women to work within the NRL. Actually he asked rather than stated didn’t he? You’d have to wonder why women would need to plot such a thing.

My personal belief is that it is mostly male run because they have a real passion for the game and even though they may have obtained better jobs elsewhere they didn’t because they wanted to be closer to what they love. Seems rather simple and acceptable but it has also lead to this bad behaviour. They have spoilt their boys for their love of the game and winning the game.

If the females want these jobs because they want to stop the men abusing the females then I wish the best of luck to them. I’m sure they can manage to put a lock on a changing room door too, do you think the men would use it? But to suggest that a business women has a counterpart with a younger groupie type chick is like me comparing a business man to a male stripper.

I think maybe if they have more females within their ranks the lads may even learn a little more about the grown up women professionals in society.

On one of those comment things you get on the news sites I read a comment from an air hostess saying about how sick she was of them when they travel and the filthy remarks they make about females and pass around magazines. They’re a bit cocky aye, what other groups would do that in public?

What is a thoob?

Seeker:"Looks like more like a byproduct to me."

And you may be right. I have offered a chain of reasoning that has assumptions, but no one has tried to disprove those assumptions. For example, is it normal for "everyone" to know about an upcoming Four Corners story for "weeks" before the piece is even compiled? If so, how do Four Corners stop themselves getting regularly gazumped by other outlets? Seems unlikely to me.

Given that Grimshaw and ACA joined in boots and all the next day with well-prepared and edited hatchet-job on Johns that must have taken some days(Grimshaw was going about the radio and TV stations the very next morning, calling for women to be installed).

The media-grrls like Grimshaw and Ferguson are well-used to manipulating public opinion - it's what they do for a living. Why would anyone find it strange that they may have chosen to do so in this matter?

Gallop has been instrumental in getting women onto the NRL Board and yet he had, till now, failed to get any of the clubs run by women. As Foxy pointed out, his role is to get bums on seats at NRL games and the AFL has largely captured the women's market. IOW, he is also a skilled manipulator of the public. I don't think it's a very long bow to draw that he chose to use the long-dead "scandal" to get a more visible female presence in League.

Seeker:"I think it is more about protection of the female reputation and general attempts at reframing"

Footy is a big target for feminists, being such a macho-male activity. Getting women into the "boys club" has lots of symbolic significance for them. Why do you think they are so keen not to discuss the possibility it was all a set up?

Whatever the long-term impact on the sport, this was a clear demonstration of the power of the media and the way that can be used to achieve outcomes. I expect we'll be seeing a lot more of it as the media-grrrls feel their oats.

Ahhh, now antiseptic is changing his story.

According to his last post, in his own words, he has been merely offering "a chain of reasoning that has assumptions". Not "FACT", but "assumptions" instead.

I guess this is why he can't answer the questions I've put to him. I have been trying to get him to provide the evidence that shows his NRL conspiracy theory to be "FACT". His true colours have been shown by his complete inability to do that, or even try. He gives page after page after page of "OPINION". And now we have his belated admission it's all "assumptions" on his part.

But we should all notice that these so called "assumptions" are NOT presented as assumptions by hin. Everyone here, please go back and read all the posts on this topic written by him - - - - - and you'll see they are written in a style that attempts to present his "opinion" as "FACT".

He's now been pushed into a corner, because he can't offer the facts and evidence to back up his "OPINION". Therefore, he's had to FINALLY admit his NRL conspiracy theory is just an "ASSUMPTION".

As we all know, this entire topic is NOT really about the NRL.

The topic is about "antiseptic"; it makes him the centre of attention. The topic gives him a podium to vent his fear of women who possess self determination, or any power whatsoever over men.

This very disturbed man stated his views are shared by the "silent majority" - - - - - well I have spent time reading quite a few of his old, past posts in order to try to see where this disturbed man is coming from, and if other people here did the same they'd realise his sad and lonely views about women who possess any power or self determination are embraced by a only mere "TINY MINORITY" of people in this 1st world country.

He's a quite disturbed and bitter person.Maybe the brotherhood at his USMC (United Socialist Men's Collective) can offer him more hugs at the next meeting.

sock-puppet:"now antiseptic is changing his story."

Nope. Shame, you were so close to having an actual thought, too.

sock-puppet:"According to his last post, in his own words, he has been merely offering "a chain of reasoning that has assumptions". Not "FACT", but "assumptions" instead."

Quite so. It's called drawing an inference from available data. It requires actual thinking, so don't bother trying it for yourself, you're not quite equipped, poor thing.

sock-puppet:"I have been trying to get him to provide the evidence that shows his NRL conspiracy theory to be "FACT"."

which clearly demonstrates you're not very bright.

sock-puppet:"He gives page after page after page of "OPINION""

Well, yes, I think that's appropriate on a site called "On-Line Opinion". It's a shame you're not adequately mentally equipped to hold an opinion of your own. I guess some of you have to fall on the far left of the bell curve.

sock-puppet:"The topic is about "antiseptic""

YOUR topic is antiseptic, the rest of us are discussing the NRL and the media. It's flattering, dear, but I prefer women with an IQ bigger than their waist diameter.

sil...sock-puppet:"I have spent time reading quite a few of his old, past posts "

I'll happily send you a pair of used undies to sniff while you're doing it if you give me your address. I'll even guarantee skidmarks. It's the least I can do for such a devoted fan.

Anti, while I may have supported some of your claims to a degree, we are actually poles apart, sorry.
CJMorgan, thanks, I did wonder.
And that’s me finished on this topic, I don’t feel I have anything further to contribute.