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Blue collar opinions don't count?

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“Although, like many families, we had a sort of family language with words and phrases that were a mixture of malapropisms, quotes, words from different languages and childhood mispronunciations (like a Supermarket is always a stupidmarket and a spider a pie-dew etc).”

That is so cool Romany. Dreaming in French actually sounds like the most restful language to sleep through.

How many languages do you know?

In my family it is freaky words and accents. We still used the odd Arabic word like shway shway. Hubby still says some nasty stuff to me in Arabic that horrified my Arabic neighbours one day. Not that we ever spoke the language just knew enough to get by. Actually I still have no idea what he is saying to me.

(phonetic: al shalmoota?) Can you tell me? I know it’s rude as it is always in response to me saying some dude on TV is cute or something. He was in Saudi a lot longer than me, funny how he thought he was the boss for about 5 minutes after getting off the plane.

A visiting caseworker was amazed that every single foster child (out of 7) had a different accent. Me with a heavy R sound (like a yank), hubby Kiwi, son uses Maori words cause he’s a show off and my daughter sounds more Aussie than your average Aussie.

Our family all speak in a strange non descriptive way and without looking in anyones eyes. We have learnt to do this so as to discuss a child without letting the child know to avoid any hurt feelings.
“oh that little short blonde thing returned with certain livestock on scalp and if anyone was clever they would go check for themselves probably before doing anything much else really”.

And no one reacts immediately. Actually I could scream that the house on fire and my family would sit their making sure a kid didn’t think we were discussing them.
Posted by Jewely, Thursday, 28 May 2009 2:41:06 PM
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“see that spiritually speaking,two people doing the same thing may have totally different reasons for doing the same thing..[one might be spiritually valid..[the other spiritually invalid]
how it was put to me is say you planned to murder...but in the end didnt,..by act no murder took place..BUT..[but one decided it was wrong,.the other didnt get the oppertuinity]
think of it as like..feeding the fatted calf..[one feeds..to feed the calf..[the other feeds to eat it in time..same act but different motivations...thats why its written..its what a man thinketh in his heart”

Well that’s where I go wrong then… what I mean and what I write seems to clash a lot.

You are talking “intent” rather than the end result? That’s a lawyer/judge thing isn’t it... Whether someones act was proven intentional means another 10 – 20 years sort of thing? Then if the intention was for their own benefit or someone elses? 10 – 20 years off?

“never feel stupid..thats just so dumb...lol...till we know the will to do better we simply didnt know..you must remember the system thrives on keeping us ignorant of the real way of things...[take giving people unemployment benifit,..seemingly good to help others..but it also allows the aid mentality..and extra tax to..pay' for it..[and corperate-welfare costs 10 times unemployment..'benefit']”

Lost me completely OUG… govt would prefer people unemployed? What is Corporate Welfare? I do remember as a teen being unemployed, had to get up and ring err… someone from some department each morning and tell them what I was doing that day to find work. Gawd they were strict, if late with the call I had to go in to the office. Wonder if it was just me, I certainly felt picked on.

But yes, if I was going to have to get up anyway stuff it, might as well earn more.

I hate snow, yellow or otherwise.
Posted by Jewely, Thursday, 28 May 2009 2:54:27 PM
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coorperat welfare is govt gifts/subsidies it gives to big buisnes like gm getting gifts to retool[or that magnesia plant that was given half a billion each by howard and beaty,or govt subsidy for drugs[the subsidy ..just..for stroke medication is over one billion[and its affects is the same as smoking a puff from a joint]

anyhow the corperate welfare is huge,consuming 2/3 rd of govt expenditure...re the intent thing that i was speaking of is spiritually speaking...angels use precice terminology[much like the escimos re types of snow]..and much like lawyers...its about being precice[but our leaders donr like us to have this precice-ness thus teach is emotive generalities]

the unemployment issue was to highlight the ammount govt gives to its mates..[like rent assistance ALL goes to the landlord,...were there no rent assistance rent would have to be lower[as we would have less to pay rent,its basic market economics,..we may get a wage increase[but everything just goes up in price]

when govt effectivly lowerd the wages by non indexation[the ritch contracted wages, not govt controled doubled,but the poor wages eroded..its not important for everyone to understand it..i was just making the points for those who do

the other point you raised was simply some beuro-roc-rat having his jollies pushing arround kids..on a previous point..i think in pictures,my writing is just about writing into words the images my mind sees,..

it gets complicated because much of the imagry is feelings,..opinions and assosiations..derived from/ or asosiated with the imagry..when i read its a reversal;..the words form imagry/feeling's/memories and assosiations...much like vivid dreaming..[i often feel im only channeling/interpritating the info i make into words
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 28 May 2009 3:20:38 PM
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“coorperat welfare is govt gifts/subsidies …welfare is huge,consuming 2/3 rd of govt expenditure...”

Oh… so not good or bad just is what it is?

“re the intent thing that i was speaking of is spiritually speaking...angels use precice terminology[much like the escimos re types of snow]..and much like lawyers...its about being precice[but our leaders donr like us to have this precice-ness thus teach is emotive generalities]”

I learnt this recently in DoCS meetings. I accuse and they neither confirm nor deny but say things like “oh don’t think that Julie”. Cannot get them to be precise.

“the unemployment issue was to highlight the ammount govt gives to its mates..[like rent assistance ALL goes to the landlord,...were there no rent assistance rent would have to be lower[as we would have less to pay rent,its basic market economics,..we may get a wage increase[but everything just goes up in price]”

How does this benefit the government/country?

“when govt effectively lowered the wages by non indexation[the rich contracted wages, not govt controled doubled,but the poor wages eroded..its not important for everyone to understand it..i was just making the points for those who do”

Oh google is going to ban me. Or start paying you… indexation?

"it gets complicated because much of the imagry is feelings,..opinions and assosiations..derived from/ or asosiated with the imagry..when i read its a reversal;..the words form imagry/feeling's/memories and assosiations...much like vivid dreaming..[i often feel im only channeling/interpritating the info i make into words"

I get it, well I don’t a lot of the time, but love reading it as it has a certain cadence that is just about addictive. When I started I had to print out your replies to read them better… now I just enjoy all of it.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 29 May 2009 9:04:35 PM
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Indexation is to automaticly adjust income payments by means of a price index,in order to maintain purchasing power at or abouve inflation...effectively transfers the risk of inflation from the payee to the payor,..who must pay more each year to reflect the increases in prices..inflation indexation is often applied to pension payments,rents,wages..but even to payments like/electicity/services/insurance

any payment may be indexed to inflation..[yet rarely deflation]...not indexing pensions..for egsample..saves govt expenditure[allowing them to give more to their mates[or tuckaway into the govt super sceme[for public servants]

sorry im so dificult to understand..[a lot of stuff is much easier to understand in our mind, as imagry..[but more dificult to explain into words]or on to a public forum..also we all have different life experiences..that again complicates things..i spent a lot of my life explaining things to my kids..my wife is one of those who dont even try to explain

i gave up trying to explain this sort of stuff to my family[and no doudt will soon give up explaining it on forums[people really dont want to know..and most of the info comes 2 de/or even 3 rd hand,it just jells with my own life experience

[but had my life been different i guess it would sound unbelievable..[thats why i tell people to do their own research..[and not get angry at the info,we cant hope to change..anger/fear they just cant change anything,i was driven to find out and did..[found out more than i wanted to know,..but once you know it obligates..perhaps more spiritually than physicly..[spiritually im appaled]..but aware they only stain their own souls
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 30 May 2009 12:19:23 AM
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"any payment may be indexed to inflation..[yet rarely deflation]...not indexing pensions..for egsample..saves govt expenditure[allowing them to give more to their mates[or tuckaway into the govt super sceme[for public servants]"

Public servants are people who work the government?

“..i spent a lot of my life explaining things to my kids..my wife is one of those who dont even try to explain”

I think my hubby feels the same way about me, he’s probably happy I found someone to explain this stuff to me.

“i gave up trying to explain this sort of stuff to my family[and no doudt will soon give up explaining it on forums[people really dont want to know..and most of the info comes 2 de/or even 3 rd hand,it just jells with my own life experience”

I think I just didn’t know what was jelling with mine until I started asking. My son and I had a huge discussion last night – could have come straight out of the “sports sex scandal” thread. Same topic and him repeating what most people in that thread were saying about the woman. But he’s a kid still and maybe will learn that these situations are not so black and white.

“,..but once you know it obligates..perhaps more spiritually than physicly..[spiritually im appaled]..but aware they only stain their own souls”

Yes. I got a lot of information recently about DoCS and NGO’s. I am disgusted with this female run department and their sister organizations. None of it pointed to the children being of any priority.

I am tempted to start a thread but I never see anyone on here talking about kids so don’t feel it would go far beyond me bleating and demanding the females get out and let the men in.
Posted by Jewely, Saturday, 30 May 2009 8:19:10 AM
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