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Blue collar opinions don't count?

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jewel<<I am tempted to start a thread but I never see anyone on here talking about kids so don’t feel it would go far beyond me bleating and demanding the females get out and let the men in.>>i have put forward may discussions..only 3 ever got through..[mostly grayham says he dosnt comprehend what im saying]

but on the kids issue..females shouldnt..let go control of the kids[those femail in the pubic service are under orders of men..[thus they try to outdo that the men taught them...also woman..simply speaking can get away with child stealing..a man simply speaking cant take a child from its mother..but these female public-servants can

it used to be cops that took kids...but we lost trust in cops..so they brought in females..to do the intermediate work of taking the kids,..but its a very messy issue..[so much self intrest..[about adults needs ..not enough for the kids needs,..but such is as it is

all i know is i see a guy in the park with kids..and automaticlly think pervert..[it must be a social preconditioning,..yet i see a mother and child playing and think how great]..none of us is perfect so with kids i feel better to err on the side of caution[my abuser was a male]

even after i grew up its males making the laws that send me to jail..[ok female judges are now doing the sentancing in court, but its mens rules they follow
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 30 May 2009 11:34:22 AM
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Yes, only overseas did my children get to play and have fun with other grown males and it was seen as normal. Us two seem to have rather big problems with our own genders.

OUG, we do clash here. I believe the women have made a dangerous mess of it. They may be following Acts made by men but the culture within their department has been distorted over time where the care and protection of children, from what I have experienced, is non-existent priority within management.

The caseworkers, the ones under all other managers are left struggling, most of them still care and are in contact with the children that they have concern for but are powerless.

These women in management do not personally and physically inflict harm on the children themselves within the department and associated organisations. But the harm I have seen is immense and soul destroying to the children. Many children and still going.

To be a witness to children suffering, to hear of more children suffering and to watch the caseworkers suffer because of what they are made to participate in…

I think we need to find the men, the women have lost focus and the children are lost.
Posted by Jewely, Saturday, 30 May 2009 12:29:35 PM
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At Hillsong Church, they teach that we are born males, but have to learn to be men. They have a program teaching males how to be good husbands and fathers, and even have referrals from Magistrates to them instead of sending first offenders to prison. Not all magistrates are bad. They are like the women Jewel complains about, decent people doing a nasty job for a heartless State.

We also have a program for the female victims of the system, and we occasionally hear tearful testimonies, from women who have turned their lives around, with help from other women, and the teachings of the Holy Bible. Some of us are really lucky and had great fathers, who loved and cherished their wife, and between them gave their children a safe and loving environment to grow up in. Others are not so blessed.

I know a woman with four kids under 12, two girls and two boys, and every time I see them I am so pleased. She is a wonderful mother, and loves her kids fiercely. Unfortunately, her man is sometimes affected by a condition requiring medication, but I see no affect on the little ones. He is difficult, but works hard, so she stays with him. However her kids are always well dressed, look well fed, even though they accept an offer for a Maccas any time it is given. They are doing well at school too.

I met her at Uni, when she was still a student, and we have stayed friends. She confided in me the rough childhood she experienced, with an abusive stepfather, or two. Her mother had an awful taste in men, it seems, and left her father when she was about four. Now she has four of her own, and is doing a great job. I hear so many tales of abuse. It is not only children, but old people too who are maltreated. If blue collar opinions were made important, by the restoration of proper courts with judges, and total and free access to them, I could teach anyone how to help others.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 30 May 2009 2:25:14 PM
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I don’t think anyone really understands that we as Australians, adopted the scripture from Isaiah 9 verse 6, where the Lord promised a leader called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The Might God, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace, and his ever expanding peaceful government will never end.

Central to that good government was reliance on blue collar opinions. The leader given was a carpenter. That is a real blue collar profession, but at the same time he was a Rabbi, called Master, and learned in the laws to an amazing degree. We are told it was because he was a regular church attendee, and by the age of twelve, was teaching and amazing people.

When he came and told the Jews of whom he was a leader, they were doing it wrong, they got really annoyed, but he stayed around long enough, to teach the New Covenant to his followers. They are contained in the Gospels, and they are there so blue collar opinions are informed opinions. That is why I urge anyone who will listen to come to church. In Church they still tell the yarns that used to fill churches completely. They tell them with flair and with great talent at Hillsong in Sydney, and now in Brisbane, and the lesson is always scripturally based.

I get really ticked off with dishonesty. Jesus Christ taught that the truth will set you free, and it should. It would if we did not have a bunch of pagan Judges, who think they know better than He did, and left it to blue collar opinions to decide who the liar was in the court. I read a great yarn recently about a liar, represented by a lawyer, in a Judge only Court. The plaintiff was representing himself, was a very powerful Italian, and picked up a chair to brain the defendant with if he continued to lie. Judge got upset but the defendant fessed up, and stopped lying. Can anyone else see how dishonest it is for a Judge to pretend he is judges, and exclude blue collar opinion
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 30 May 2009 3:00:22 PM
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What do we celebrate on Anzac Day? It is not the efforts of the officers, it is the efforts of the predominantly private soldier, who left wife, parents and loved ones, and volunteered, and in some cases was conscripted, to go and fight for an ideal. The wars we sent them to, were not about territory, they were about ideas. The right held dear, to live in peace.

The difference between the Aussie Digger, and the English Tommy, was that predominantly the Aussie went to fight willingly, while lots of the Tommy’s went because the enemy behind was worse than the enemy in front. The English though, were essentially a Protestant Christian Army. The war we are fighting now is even harder to comprehend. It is essentially a class war. Are we to accept the rule of a small ridiculously well paid Officer Corps, with an army of enforcers, or do we have a Constitution that guarantees the Blue Collar Opinions, count.

Christianity is all about infantry. Christian soldiers on the ground. Atheists and secularists would confine us to barracks, lock us in our increasingly deserted churches, Islamists would have us disciplined effectively for jihad, perpetual war, but Christians are breaking out, volunteering all over the world, to go and save souls, and feed the widows, and abandoned children. Doing what Jesus Christ asked them to. This is what Peter Sellick is saying. If you want to make a difference join a church. Find a church that is a fighting unit. A fighting unit that knows there is a war on. Join the infantry.

When blue collar opinion counted, Judges were kept in their proper place, as all good officers should be. No Judge, was ever allowed to pronounce a sentence, it was up to blue collar opinion. No government was ever allowed to make laws, unless those laws were ultimately enforceable by infantry; A twelve man squad, sworn on the Holy Bible to find the truth. The battleground between good and evil has always been a court, in English Constitutional thinking. Hup the Hinfantry. Hup the officers
Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 31 May 2009 8:43:11 AM
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“At Hillsong Church, they teach that we are born males, but have to learn to be men. They have a program teaching males how to be good husbands and fathers, and even have referrals from Magistrates to them instead of sending first offenders to prison. Not all magistrates are bad. They are like the women Jewel complains about, decent people doing a nasty job for a heartless State.”

Within the last week I have had two different young females near tears as they explain some situations around children I know or have known. No situation was previous to the children entering care. These women suffer and the older women are allowing the situations to continue or are responsible for them.

I am so pleased and relieved to have seen this honesty finally but confirming my fears leads to more fear for the children.

If people within a system are corrupt and even though there are still many good people within the system is it fair to announce the whole system as corrupt? Would I be right Legally? Morally? Ethically?

“Can anyone else see how dishonest it is for a Judge to pretend he is judges, and exclude blue collar opinion”

Do you mean the juries Peter?

WWII - I just read a whole lot of stuff about the Aboriginals and the war, how they were treated at the time around their citizenship. Not even considered blue collar.
Posted by Jewely, Sunday, 31 May 2009 9:00:23 AM
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