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Blue collar opinions don't count?

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Jewely asks:

"Can someone help... I log in and look up and down about 15 displayed messages trying to work out which ones have new posts based on the times they were left.

I am guessing there is an easier way to do this? Something I can click on so that I just get the New posts?"

There is an easier way, Jewely. Just click on the words 'Last post' at the top of the right-hand-most column on either the Articles index page or the General Discussion index page. All topics will then be re-displayed in the order of recency of the last posts made to them.

All of the index page column headings are clickable 'buttons', although this is not necessarily obvious to anyone new to the Forum. Clicking the heading 'Posts' re-orders the index page from the topic having had the greatest number of posts made to it at the top, and in descending order from there.

These display preferences do not stick: after a period of inactivity on your part of I think around two hours, any index display refresh will default to listing of topics in order of publication date, until you again click, for example, 'Last post'.

There is a saying amongst web page designers that "if it ain't obvious, it ain't obvious". Even on fora run by geeks for geeks, highly experienced web designers frequently fail to make features obvious or self-explanatory. This is why I say forums need page pages (and an obvious 'page page' button) to facilitate use.

It also pays to enter the 'display topics one quarter back' display option to reveal recent posts on topics that may be more than one month old. 'Sexting it up', in the Articles index, is a topical example.
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Sunday, 24 May 2009 8:56:54 PM
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Thank you Forrest, OUG explained the clickable heading thing awhile ago but the last post thing had me stumped. And sometimes people mention how they got notified of a thread. I click somewhere for that?

Should be a permanent thread somewhere to help the plebs like me. You’re going to tell me there is a help thing aren’t you but you wont see my face go red so it wont count.

I went back and read some old messages on OLO, only back to December. There seems to be a pattern on here, if you are losing attack grammar. I read 5 messages in a row from username Nicky saying she is not going to reply anymore then she waited until someone else said something and replied to them to complain about the person she wouldn’t talk to.

Oh and a short thread about embarrassing moments, that was cool.

I remember the same conversations on BBS’s 15 years ago. Not as sophisticated but it was all a bit new back then. Anyone ever done a study/article on forum messaging?
Posted by Jewely, Monday, 25 May 2009 9:28:25 AM
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at the bottum of every page you will see..a lightening-bolt..[extreem right..[clicking on that sends you to the notification/page..[at that page you click the button and are subscribed

the other..[easier]-way to subscribe is..on the response/page..[under/the previeuw button..is an empty box..[clicking on it..atomaticlly subscribes you..to the post]

subscription means;..every post comes to your email-box..[it also tells who posted,..clicking on the link sends us to 1 st page,...

extra info...

the address difference/between page 1 and the full page is .. &page=0
so..[if you want to skip the first page..go straight to the new post,..cut the adress link/and add to the adress...and add in[ &page=0 ]..that should take you..in one click..to the full page]..but i dont mind clicking on the all button,

anyhow..thats how i figured how to do it in one click..but as usual post too much info..[lol]...

thats why im not getting into the emarising moments thread...i like to keep my private-bits out of my public-bits..[were i better educated i would have a better word than bits]..but im only a bit-player..[and doubly so because i wrote bitter..[instead of better]..owing to my poor eye hand co-ordination

but one of my regrets is..illegable handwriting..[but no use handwringing about the issue]..if i was edumacated..i wouldnt be as opinionated..[because]..all my dis-opinion would have been masticated from my mind by the re-education..[higher education]..lol..process

god it must be great..to be really edumacated..[ie knowing how to properly spellout..the words i choose to use..[instead of continually trying to spell out the meanings of the words/im conciously mangeling]

see that words are sacred..[sacred/words..=..s/words]
words can wound..[maybe thats why i wound words back]

revenge is sweet,..no sweat

you bet words can hypnotise..[each contains a spell]
wether spelling or dispelling/i use them to break the spell..[that they hold over all of us...[did i spell all that out properly]

dont get cast..under the spell of words
could i spell it out more clear

words are mans-invention
the intent of their spell-ing
isnt allways clear
what means that word
falling so gently on our ear

see hiden in words
their real meaning is much like ban-king
some are for explaining..[others for wan-king]
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 May 2009 10:23:44 AM
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Sorry PAL1, needs must:-

Guys... is there a way to private mail Graham? DoCS are hunting me and using the care and protection act to request all my posts off other sites. I don't even know if it is legal.

...if DoCS don't lock me up or something.
Posted by Jewely, Saturday, 23 May 2009 8:37:14 PM
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1) First off Jewels: contacting Graham:-

Run the scroll up/down bar right to the bottom of the page. You will see a yellow bar running across the bottom (below it a black bar-the last one on the page). On the yellow bar is "Feedback",-click on that to contact Graham.

2) Have you received written confirmation from DoCS that they are tracking your posts? How do you know that they are? (If they have not notified you;-what they're doing is illegal). If they have notified you, take a copy and email it to the Council for Civil Liberties. They are not entitled to do this. It is only something that can be done by Police, and THEY have to be careful.

3) They do not have to 'request your posts'. All they need to do is copy/paste them. Which is what a Webmaster would tell them I suspect.

4) How do they know what sites you are on?

5) If you are CERTAIN they are tracking you, without any due cause,-One of the simplest things to do, is to go public,-contact the media. But make damn sure you have nothing to hide, and are fully prepared to defend any allegations against you.
Posted by Ginx, Monday, 25 May 2009 3:10:23 PM
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Dear Pal01,
Going by the clap trap resulting from your earnest questions you have absolutely no fear of being considered undereducated on this forum.
Firstly the show is there for everyone despite the fact that a few tend to make use of the turnout to their own ends.
Did you really want to know what happened to someone’s deceased cat when you began the thread?

Yours is a rather well put together comment you’ve scripted there with few typos.
I find that interestin’.

But to answer yours –

Re your 1 –
Now if you want a topic to soar over your head, then you’ve come to the right place.
These guys here, though generally stuck on the ground with the turkeys, let their minds soar with the vultures. I bet their table manners are equally bad.
It was suggested to me today that this could be the result of what some of ‘em smoke.

Re your 2 –
It is a fact that most humans cannot actually ‘see in their mind’s eye’ more than a certain number of discrete items. In other words – shut their eyes and actually ‘see’, say, five individual randomly placed apples within their consciousness.
Tricks can be applied like stacking the objects in ranks x rows (as we do with soldiers, etc) but even then most are defeated much past twenty without causing sweat.
I know this has nothing much to do with ‘Home and Away’ which, I guess, proves me as bad as those to which I’ve referred.

Your last lines.
If you don’t like the circle you run in, then try a Mobius Strip –
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbius_strip
Essentially the social experiment will last at least twice as long but beware you may not be able to get off afterwards.
Posted by A NON FARMER, Monday, 25 May 2009 6:50:08 PM
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Hey Ginx,
“2) Have you received written confirmation from DoCS that they are tracking your posts? How do you know that they are? (If they have not notified you;-what they're doing is illegal). If they have notified you, take a copy and email it to the Council for Civil Liberties. They are not entitled to do this. It is only something that can be done by Police, and THEY have to be careful.”

A caseworker came to see me last week and said Queensland had rung NSW after receiving a complaint I had uploaded photos of foster children online. They wont find any photo or even a name of any foster child from me.

I was left unsure of what I had been accused of.

Then on Altnews site he received a fax requesting all my posts and any uploaded photos along with four other users. One is a Canadian talking about radio-waves and I don’t know who the other three are.

“3) They do not have to 'request your posts'. All they need to do is copy/paste them. Which is what a Webmaster would tell them I suspect.”
Yes the Altnews webmaster is a bit annoyed, might be why he posted the DoCS request in public.

“4) How do they know what sites you are on?”

My big mouth and I am Jewely everywhere. Some sites have my photo for an avatar thing.

“5) If you are CERTAIN they are tracking you, without any due cause,-One of the simplest things to do, is to go public,-contact the media. But make damn sure you have nothing to hide, and are fully prepared to defend any allegations against you.”

I don’t think they have to defend it, a anon phone call is all it takes with care and protection considering a child could be at risk from harm.

OUG pointed out that it may be a fake request but the phone number on the request does lead back to DoCS in NSW. If the webmaster over there wasn’t so friendly I wouldn’t have even known about it.
Posted by Jewely, Monday, 25 May 2009 7:48:59 PM
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