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What would a truly Christian Australia be like?

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Dear Philo,

I understand what you're saying.

However, we must hold to the conviction that the heart,
is the light of the world.

Each of us can make a difference.

We can touch people's hearts.

We can make this a better place for everyone,
if we all try.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 April 2009 9:07:42 PM
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In a truly Christian Australia we would have an education system. That education system would teach, as The English taught themselves, that the foundation of good government is in the New Testament, in the two great commandments there. The two are: Have no God but me, and love thy neighbour as yourself. The rest do not matter.

I can understand the paranoid fear expressed by so many Europeans who fled the continental model of Christianity, promulgated by the Roman Catholic Church, and its orthodox fellow travelers, in Russia, but hey, the English worked it out. Why cant we.

If you belong to a footy club, you obey the rules or you leave. The Constitution of Australia is the Rule book of a big footy club. We have got away from the rules, and adopted the failed continental model. No other democracy has ever succeeded like the English one. In a truly Christian Australia the Constitution would be taught and understood by everyone for the uniquely Christian document it is.

It sits like a capstone on a pyramid, with the Imperial acts that preceded it making up the rest of the structure. One Imperial Act banned lawyers from Parliament in Britain, for 498 years, because the Gospel of Luke in 12:10-12 warned us about them. They have never changed, and making them Judges and Magistrates is continental government, not Christian.

The Roman Catholic Church used Christianity to enslave people and that was why the English rebelled. The Magna Carta was the first truly Christian document and the New Testament is the English Constitution or was. In a Christian Australia the right to worship would be absolutely free, and access to justice universally granted. The special privileges given to themselves by lawyers in Parliament would be abolished, and the twelve judges prescribed by Parliament would be drawn not from an elite, but from the common people, just as S 79 Constitution demands. Wealth would be redistributed, by the simple medium of honest Judge free courts, as Henry VII had legislated in 1487.
Christianity as taught in the New Testament is democracy itself
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 20 April 2009 10:24:56 AM
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In addition in a truly Christian Australia we would have a justice system, not a just us system. The just us system we have in Australia is set up by the Liberal Party Church, self described, where elites rule the rest of us, and we better get used to it.

The Christian justice system came straight out of the New Testament. The separation of powers comes out of John 5 verses 22 and 23. The prohibition on an elitist government comes out of the Sermon on the Mount. In the New Testament all men are created equal, and Jesus Christ was executed because he would not become a King or a Roman.

We had a truly Christian Australia in 1949. In that year the High Court ruled that the Commonwealth could not nationalize the banks. In 1951 it also ruled that the Communist Party could not be banned. The High Court had to go. It was sent packing by Menzies in 1952, and as soon as Christian Government had its head cut off, by a Rule of Court, the rot set in. Rule by an elite was started and has been continued for sixty years. Australia is now only slightly better than communist Russia was.

We have the same type of government by State appointed Judges and Magistrates. We have 100,000 homeless because resources are funneled into the private pockets of politicians and the likes of Norman Allen, the former Police Chief. If a homeless person could sue the Premier, for the necessities of life, and have his prayer heard, as it was able to be before 1970, in a Church constituted with a Priest, and twelve of his fellow homeless as the judges of fact, instead of by a state appointed atheist, then the homeless problem would be gone.

The Holy Bible says: Judge not that ye be not judged. Christianity is all about justice, not just us. It is all about representative democracy, not controlled democracy. If the Christians wake up to the confidence trick pulled on them by the Liberal Party, Labor will govern well and long
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 20 April 2009 11:10:30 AM
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" ... The High Court had to go. It was sent packing by Menzies in 1952, and as soon as Christian Government had its head cut off, by a Rule of Court, the rot set in. ... "

Perhaps you would care to cite the rule *PtheB?*

And it was that same "Christian" guvment abusing the
*Original Australians* I assume?

Seriously, whilst you make some interesting points i.m.o. you appear to have cherry picked a few nice bits without offering a true representation of the overall despicable conduct of the collective.

(WARP)

For the heinous war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the crown there is no excuse. And of course, when they put their boot on the neck of the germans too hard too long, they in part orchestrated the rise of a monster which in turn savaged them, and for some of them I would argue that it was well deserved.

(WARP)

Then in the case of saddam hussein and O.B.L. they did the same. Have you any idea how much blood of the innocents they have shed? But they along with n.americans, tell us that as opposed to being part of the problem, they are part of the solution. <PUKE>

(WARP)

Bazza Obama said:

"and words must mean something and laws must yada yada" in relation to n.korea, but on the other hand *bush turkey* and his band of torturers are to be spared.

(WARP)

If anyone actually believes that these people are taken seriously by the rest of the world then I would strongly suggest that you are sadly and foolishly mistaken.
Posted by DreamOn, Monday, 20 April 2009 2:57:17 PM
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If we were to Christianise Australia, these would probably be the things that would happen:

1) Gay and lesbian people will be jailed, stoned, or deported
2) The seafood industry will suffer because eating prawns and shellfish will be illegal
3) Violence towards children will escalate as forms of punishment again
4) Women who get caught cheating in relationships will be liable to be stoned
5) Women will not be allowed to hold positions of power in business, politics or church ministry or leadership
6) Slavery will be brought back in because it was never condemned in the Bible
7) Naturism and Nudism will be permitted anywhere because it is never condemned in the Bible (except when getting people drunk in order for them to get naked, or for soliciting people in the street for sex)
8) The age of consent will be lowered to 12 or 13 and it will be legal for people to get married at that age
9) The government will spend more money on taking care of orphans and widows as well as privatising education and health care
10) Taxes will still be around regardless, because Jesus said to 'pay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar' when the pharisees tried to trap him asking him if it was immoral or evil to pay taxes
11) Anybody who takes or keeps money dishonestly will be convicted of lying to the Holy Spirit and be punished by immediately being struck dead by an invisitble force
12) People who practice levitation can be put to death by born again Christians praying that they hit the ground, and will

Need I go on?
Posted by fatpizzaman, Thursday, 23 April 2009 4:12:52 PM
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13. Cats and dogs will have to go back in the closet.
14. OLO would lose 95% of its topics.
Posted by Fractelle, Thursday, 23 April 2009 4:38:50 PM
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