Obama was vehemently opposed to the operation of Guantanamo Bay. Myself and like-minded others were pleased to see his stance as well as his moves to shut the facility down in due course.

I've been quite a fan of Obama's until I discovered this little titbit, which has given me quite the cause for concern.

In Afghanistan, the US has a prison at Bagram. Here, they have also suspended the right to trial and basically are doing the same things as were done at Guantanamo.

And allow me to be crystal clear - this isn't about locally caught prisoners, that would be pretty much par for the course and I could understand that.
The prisoners at Bagram are being flown in from other countries and then are being subject to the same legal black holes which characterised Guantanamo.

Worryingly, Obama's defending this practice, despite the fact that the Supreme court has ruled it unconstitutional.

You can read more here:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/11/bagram/index.html

This is indefensible. I've been trying to find a decent justification for this, but everything sounds like the same pathetic excuses I heard from the Bush supporters who tried to justify it when he did horrendous things.

Maybe somebody else can, however, I'm curious as to how this can be honourable for Obama but dishonourable for Bush.

Damnit. I actually thought Obama would be better, at least on this crucial matter.

I thought so too TRTL.

It makes Guantanamo Bay look like a political stunt if continuing illegal torture and detainment are just being moved elsewhere.

Maybe more information on this will come to light.

TRTL

'Damnit. I actually thought Obama would be better, at least on this crucial matter.' Your hatred for Bush obviously blinded you as it has millions of others.

runner, I would hope that this post would be evidence I'm willing to critically examine either side of politics, regardless of which one I favour.

Something you're clearly not capable of. So unless you've got something worthwhile to contribute, enough with your childish little temper tantrums huh?

Try weighing up both sides of an issue without your abortion-tinted glasses on for a change.

I like Obama – he still gets my vote.
--I like what he is doing on the renewable energy front –early days yet but it looks like big moves in the right direction.
-- I like his more conciliatory approach to Russia & Iran – it might just work.
-- But, what I like most of all is that it is now so much more difficult for the hate-America-brigade to explain everything in terms of Michael Moore’s ‘ol boy red necks’ & ‘big business’ clichés

Goes to show who REALLY is writing the script.

Obama needs to be pressured about it just as much as Bush was.