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Guantanamo II. This time it's Obama.
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Posted by Fractelle, Monday, 13 April 2009 1:04:13 PM
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We'll give him THIS one, eh Fractelle?. Good grief.
Extraordinary Rendition was at the TOP of indictable CRIMES against humanity engineered by the U.S. Just because Obama is PERCEIVED as better than Bush that doesn't make officially sanctioned kidnapping and imprisonment for YEARS without charge nor trial excusable. That's retarded. Posted by StG, Monday, 13 April 2009 1:20:36 PM
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StG
I agree with you, I am not excusing Obama. There is no excuse or justification for the existence of Guantanamo - it will go down in history with other human horrors; detention camps, holocaust, Pol Pot. But I am not privy to all the machinations behind Guantanamo - but it exists, it must be dealt with and I have enough hope in Obama to simply wait and see. Posted by Fractelle, Monday, 13 April 2009 1:53:37 PM
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I agree with what Fractelle's said. This is disappointing, but it still has more than 7 years to unfold. I'll make my judgement at the end of Obama's first term.
Remember that the "Obama is a saint" rhetoric was purely a sarcastic invention of the Right to downplay his vast superiority over both Bush and McCain. Those of us who support him always expected a degree of realpolitik to balance the idealism. Posted by Sancho, Monday, 13 April 2009 2:11:22 PM
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I predicted last year that Obama will do as he is told.He is a false dawn.The creation of the ruling corporate elite that John Fitzgerald Kennedy talked about is real and has totally corrupted the US political process.
Obama also promised to repeal the Patriot Act,instead he has elected to extend indefinitely it's reign.This act allows for the FBI or CIA to record anyones phone calls or invade their computers on the slightest suspicion.It also allows the president to suspend the constitution and declare Martial Law if demonstrations break out as those in Thailand. Support Ron Paul in the US at the first step in dethroning this corporate totalitarianism in the auditing of the US Federal Reserve.This private cartell of banks own the US currency and are the real instigatigators of this global economic collapse. The Obama administration is making sound banks contribute to these failed bail out schemes by threatening them with with crippling audits,yet Congress cannot audit the Federal Reserve who are bleeding the US tax payer dry and destroying their economy! http://www.ronpaul.com/ Posted by Arjay, Monday, 13 April 2009 4:33:59 PM
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You can't expect consistency from a pathological narcissist.
Obama will go which ever way the wind blows. His only goal is to consolidate his power base. Posted by KMB, Monday, 13 April 2009 5:13:26 PM
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The issue of Guantanamo has more strings attached than a home and contents insurance policy. I am prepared to give benefit of doubt. One thing I am 100% sure of, he is not another Bush and he is far, far better than the previous administration, with that in mind I continue to be grateful.