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Guantanamo II. This time it's Obama.

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I agree with Fractelle on this.

Let's wait and see.

Obama has enough on his plate at the moment -
he's not been there long enough to warm the
seat.

He's inherited a dreadful detention legacy -
that he's got to deal with. - I'm sure this is only
a very temporary stance. I don't believe that
someone of his calibre, knowledge of international law,
and - whose ethos is, "transparency
promotes accountability," wouldn't realize - that
transparency is essential to accountability and
must be central to US Detention policy.

Obama would be fully aware that all US detentions anywhere,
must comply with Internation Law.

It is too early to judge to judge the man.

At least for now.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 13 April 2009 7:15:33 PM
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I note on OLO that those on the far right/Conservative side of politics are never as willing to criticise their camp. Or their icons - like Bush - they will defend him to the end of days no matter what ills come, but as soon as the 'other' side err they are in there like Flynn with harsh criticisms.

Have you noticed that the extremists will never self-doubt or accept the good and bad on both sides?

How an earth anyone could criticise Obama as a pathological narcissist eludes me. Obama's rise to power was more a backlash against Bush than an idol worship of Obama as his detractors often parrot.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 13 April 2009 7:33:54 PM
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KMB, we had 8 years of Rumsfeld and Cheney, and NOW you want to complain about pathological narcissists? Late to the party, my friend.
Posted by Sancho, Monday, 13 April 2009 7:37:18 PM
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Fractelle,
Forgive me.
I missed your post equating Gitmo with the holocaust and Pol Pot.
How many millions were killed at Gitmo again?
Or were you referring to that video on youtube where one of the guards was manhandling one of the orange-suited freedom fighters?
Or perhaps it was the incident where a guard accidentally touched a prisoner's copy of the Koran without putting on his white gloves first?
Or was it the allegations that some of the guards were talking during prayer time?
Posted by KMB, Monday, 13 April 2009 7:40:53 PM
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Good point, KMB. And in memory of Pol Pot and the Holocaust, we must move to establish camps where Cambodians and Germans can be deposited after being kidnapped on rumour or suspicion, be subjected to torture, and have no legal recourse whatever.

Anything is justified if it buys me the illusion of security,
Posted by Sancho, Monday, 13 April 2009 7:49:21 PM
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I'm amazed.No one gets it.Bush and Obama are tarred with the same brush!They are controlled by the the US Federal Reserve Banking system and their corporate hangers on.It is not about left v's right ,it is about power over the masses.

Go back to President Woodrow Wilson in !913.It was he who signed away the right of congress to issue currency and later lamented that he'd sold out his country.JFK tried to issue currencey in the name of Congress and actually had $400 million printed when he was assassinated.

Monetary power rests with those who own the currency.Real power exists with those who have the courage ,vision,love and passion for a better future.End the FED and their debt enslavement of our planet!
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 13 April 2009 9:06:43 PM
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