Cancer1, I don't know much about the stimulus package, I don't even know if I will get one but as for the unemployed, they got one leading up to Xmas and I can tell you some of my staff were livered when they found out as they missed out.

So I guess it may be a case of what goes around comes around.

AS for the ones in most need, I would suggest that many employers are either breaking even or loosing money after their funding costs and running costs, so let's not forghet them hey, after all, they are the ones who put their kahoonas one the line every day to employ people.

Back to the stimulus, I believe it is based on the amount of tax you paid in the previous year. Now if this is correct then I would suggest that this is one the Krud has got right.

As for part time casual, well I know someone (un-skilled) who landed a job at arnots biscuits and is on $24.50 per hour base rate. UN-SKILLED!

Apparently there is plent of work there as well, that's in the brisbane plant.

There is also a web site where you can check your eligabillity. May be worth a look hey!

in the news today is the ultimate stymulous pakage, 5000 custumers of cleanmaid get cleaned out by the made clean,corperation cleaning us out, seems the cleaning maid scamed them, but think if your cleaning maid cleaned you out, she [or he?]would get jail time

but when a corperate cleaning maid made off with your cash nothing,5000 people should have a claim against their maid.. but no ,..the maid servant nor the clean[getaway made] corperation dont get even charged.;nor investiogated, cause crimes down, [its now wholsale..lol].corp bulg fraud, aint that the ultimatye cleaning out; stymy-all-of-us pack-age?

seems there is the criminal crime stimulous ..and the stimy all of us revenue raising stymy,.. gee next you hear the leaders going os for a trade stimulous [pay off ] pakage for a buisness well served by the govt holding us down for the corperates to screw us, out of our own stymyulous pak-age

oh and electricity and water is going up
we need another simulous, just to pay the neo[new]bills

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Cancer1,

My understanding is that if your are not a taxpayer, you receive nothing. It is unconstitutional for the Givernment to give a a gift. So, they made it a tax rebate.

In the US, people without income in the last taxation year -I am told by a reliable Texan friend- will receive a credit against their next payment due. I don't think our package has the tax credit.

rehctub,

If other small businesses didn't pay their workers penalty rates, you would have have fewer customers. Likewise, the money you pay are staff is spent in other small businesses.

When someone, your employee, works on a Friday night or a Sunday, they need to make an economic decision too. It is costing them the opportunty to have leisure. If it serves you to pay an employee under their opportunity cost for working overtime, is not reasonable for a major chain to sell products below your cost of supply?

You freely chose to be an employer. Presumably, you could become an employee, if you wish, including an employee working overtime.

p.s. I'm an academic. I once thought about buying a Dymocks franchise, but, at the time, chose to teach freelance thoughout Asia instead.

Oliver
What are you on about. I can't for the life of me see what any of this dribble has to do with this toppic.

Mind you though, this must be a record for the longest a thread has gone before someone has emptied their ball bag of unwanted tish!

Oliver, you said; If other small businesses didn't pay their workers penalty rates, you would have have fewer customers.

We have no more customers today than we had 20 years ago, it's just that with so many hours to shop WITH NO EXTRA MONEY to spend, many retail businesses have to trade longer for the same net result.

Have a good look around you and you will see that the freindly small business is dying. Why, because the longer hours has taken its toll and handed a monopoly to the big boys.

Just imagine how busy the local convenience store would be if the majors closed at 5.30pm weekdays and didn't trade sundays.

Remember, these are people just like you and I. Their kids go to our schools and they support their local communities, not the shareholders, and we have abondoned them in droves.

Likewise, the money you pay are staff is spent in other small businesses. Crap, reffer to the above.

Unless you are involved in retail in todays market you simply would not have a clue what you are on about.

You are all about to witness a melt down once these stimulus packages run out, just you wait and see. Handing money out is not going to create one long term job and with our manufacturing industries on their knees, we are in for one hell of a shock. But don't worry, the black swann just says, "don't wory, once we return to growth we can then pay the bill back"

What a load! Take a good look at the third world standard of living, it may well become a way of life for many once these fools are finnished.

Never seen a country ruined so quickly hey!