Oh Col,

You're back. Antonios thought you had a heart attack. I figured you were probably researching something sbout Margaret.

I found this on youtube, and thought it might get your pulse racing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg&feature=related

Col, good to see you back. I was concerned that the big heart attack
might have struck.

Foxy: *Why are you assuming that sex is not important
to him though?*

Foxy if a male dimisses sex as easily as drinking a glass
of whiskey or not, unless he is an alchoholic, that is not
a normal male sex drive. Sex is not just a want, its a
genetically programmed urge, driven by the endocrine system.

*The point that examinator was making was that
sex is part of a relationship - but NOT what
the entire relationship is all about*

But a relationship is more then just companionship
and that is the point. A relationship with no sex
life is clearly not satisfying to a heap of males out
there, as Bettina Arndt has shown. In fact its the
no 1 problem in marriages, it seems.

*You need to get out more
often into the real world of the 21st Century*

Hehe, is that so? Perhaps you Foxy, should not
just see the world through the eyes of one Victorian
female, but bother to inform yourself. Bettina Arndt
has been a major sex therapist in Australia since the
70s. If anyone knows what is going on between Australia's
sheets, she does.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/lifeandstyle/lifematters/sex-wives-and-libido/2009/03/03/1235842367573.html?page=fullpage

Perhaps you should buy the book and inform yourself, before
slinging mud.

Of course CJ is going to sling mud. Either he could have
admitted that the contradiction I pointed out was valid,
or sling mud. He chose the latter. It perhaps made him
feel a bit better. Fair enough.

Foxy,

'Think with your brain, not your rear end'

That sounds liek something Col would say. Do you reckon if Col put some smilys in his posts, he would cease to be offensive to you?

'The point that examinator was making was that
sex is part of a relationship - but NOT what
the entire relationship is all about.'

I still want you or examinator to answer Yabbys query. If a relationship isn't about sex, what differentiates a romantic relationship from a close friendship then? The physical expression of love is basically what it's all about, regardless if that involves penetration or nice massages and kissing.

I still say sex is vital in aiding open communication between couples. Even the old and disabled need sex in some form, even if only touching. The endorphins released are enormously important to mental health. Communication can only go so far until actions speak much loader than words. I cant agree with examinator I think it's a basic human need.

If a couple barely ever even kiss, I see them as friends who happen to live in the same dwelling.

Antiseptic,

You seem like the angriest man since Angry Anderson. I can imagine you getting into lots of pub fights over accidental spilling of drinks and walking around yelling 'what are yo looking at!'

Now you're getting silly, Yabby.

<< Of course CJ is going to sling mud. Either he could have
admitted that the contradiction I pointed out was valid,
or sling mud. He chose the latter. >>

Where exactly did I "sling mud" in response to your erroneous suggestion that I'd contradicted myself? I rather thought that I'd patiently explained the context in which my second marriage ended - in somewhat greater detail than I probably should have.

I even let this nonsense slide:

<< Now having sleepless nights because of an
erection might not be part of your genetic makeup, but I assure
you that it is for lots of guys. Don't assume that you represent
the common male out there, for clearly you don't. >>

Neither I, nor any of my male friends, have sleepless nights due to priapism, at least since leaving behind the hormonal nightmare of adolescence. I think you're mistaken in assuming that most men are like you.

And how does an erection keep you awake anyway - does it stop you from rolling over?

As for this tripe:

<< I remind you that what we call marriage evolved from pairbonding,
which is common in nature in species where the offspring require
a large amount of resources. Gibbons, foxes, lots of bird species
are involved and its genetic. >>

For every example of pairbonding in nature, there's dozens where it doesn't occur - most notably among our closest primate relatives. Our notion of marriage evolved from less complex social systems whereby corporate kin groups of men exchanged women with each other. I say this with some confidence as a former professional anthropologist.

Yabby>>>Now having sleepless nights because of an
erection might not be part of your genetic makeup, but I assure
you that it is for lots of guys.<<<

Why don't you just masturbate like any normal person does when horny, doesn't matter if the other half is there or not, sometimes you just gotta relax. You make it sound like a medical condition.

Dear Yabby,

I'm well aware of who Bettina Arndt is.
As a matter of fact I've read her books,
not only the latest one. I find her views
at best anachronistic - she talks about
only one aspect in a relationship - not
what else constitutes real intimacy.

And therein lies the problem with some of you
guys. I'm not disagreeing with you - I'm not
saying that sex is unimportant in a relationship,
all I'm saying is that there's more to a relationship
then sex.

And Yabby, I've got news for you - My outlook
is not at all antiquated as you infer. On the
contrary - your views fit more into that category.

Dear Houellebecq,

You must be really happy to see Col back
Well, I've got news for you - so am I!

My intention to Yabby was not to cause any offense -
simply to point out that as on reader stated in
The Age - Good Weekend magazine (21 March 2009),
"Male thinking that sex begins and ends with a
waving appendage is so limiting and unimaginative..."
Perhaps, I should have used the word "appendage"
instead of "rear end."

And you're right about "smiley faces," I'll try to
avoid them in future - except I did want to point
out that the comment was to be taken lightly -
obviously this was lost on you.