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You wrote: "Do people really know John 3:16?"
The deeper meanings of this verse cannot be discerned from the old English words of its translation. Greek is a very complex language, and when it is used to convey information on two levels, one for the "babes in Christ" and another for the initiates, it is even more complex.

To get some idea, consider the following possibilities:
"God" is the title of the person who is the secular head of the Essene mission at Qumran, in this case Joseph, Jesus' father.
Joseph was the leader of the Essene mission to the gentiles and expected his oldest son to continue with this mission. Jesus had been engaged on this when he got mixed up with Simon Magus and his plans for a violent overthrow of the Roman occupation and the puppet rulers, the Herods.

Jesus had plans for a more peaceful change which clashed with Simon's ambitions, hence the split with him after the crucifixions. He was basically a political leader and, although he was heir to the Davidic kingship, he effectively abdicated that role after the crucifixion in order to achieve a political transformation of the whole Roman empire.

He succeeded but I doubt whether the eventual outcome would have had any resemblance to what he had in mind.

The method used to determine that the Magna Carta is still in force in Australia despite the best efforts of misguided and uneducated individuals to repeal it, was to seek out and determine what Imperial Laws were in force here, when the people of Australia, relying on the blessings of Almighty God agreed to unite in one indissoluble Commonwealth under the Monarch currently ruling in the UK.

The legal profession is full of spivs and conmen. They have weaseled their way into parliaments across Australia. About 150 of them sit as Judges and many more as Magistrates. The brilliant scholars I refer to started with Thomas A’Becket, He was murdered after the King said, Will no one rid me of this pesky priest? He was simply the leader of a theological revolution, where the English realized that the four Gospels, contained the very essence of a promise made way back in Isaiah 9 Verse 6, that Government would be vested in the Son of God.

The Magna Carta incorporates into Statute, the single section of the New Testament represented by Matthew 18 Verses 15-20. Firstly it orders us to keep our word once given unequivocally. (15) Then it orders us if we are angry to take two witnesses and confront the person who has upset us (16) If that does not work, then the next step was to take him to the Ecclesia, translated into English as church. (17) The Clauses 18 and 19 contain the remedy, and Clause 20 says that the Living God Jesus Christ present as the Holy Spirit, will by divine guidance, determine who is right and who is wrong in a Christian court.

Our system of government is Christian. Our Parliament of the Commonwealth starts each day with the Lord’s Prayer. No one expected that nine separate Churches would be erected in nine separate overlapping jurisdictions, when the agreement was reached to form one country. The system is based upon the Four Gospels, not the epistles, and the Coronation Oath 1688 ( Imp) is supposed to guarantee it stays that way; one God one Sovereign.

Who pays the most money to lawyers? It is criminals. Who has a vested interest in making the justice system ineffectual? Criminals again. If a lawyer knows that a client has committed a major crime, does he stand up and say my client is a liar and a cheat. Not in my experience.

The entire legal system today, is designed to benefit the criminal element in society and have them prey on the innocent and industrious. It can only work when lawyers give themselves absolute power, as Judges and Magistrates, and never obey the Statutory Command in the Gospel of John, 22 and 23, to separate the power to Judge, vested in Jesus Christ from the power to administer the law, vested in the Sovereign, representing Almighty God.

The Judges and Magistrates of Australia are in essence criminals like their clients were. Every time they sit without a jury, they are perverting the course of justice in respect of the Judicial Power of the Commonweath. This is a serious indictable offence, made so by s 43 Crimes Act 1914. Why do they continue to be offenders.

The system was that by S 13 and S 15F Crimes Act 1914 anyone could sue these criminals and bring them before a court to be judged, in this life, not the hereafter. To make this ineffective, The Director of Public Prosecutions was vested by s 9.5 of his Act in 1983, with power to take over and discontinue without reasons, any private prosecution. This is of course an illegal act because it does not provide just terms, as guaranteed by Section 51 (xxxi) Constitution, but to a criminal lawyer, that does not count. In 1980, the same power was vested in a Judge in Queensland, and corruption has become endemic.

For the first time in sixty years we have a PM who is not a lawyer. If he is genuine, he will call for the resignation of every Judge and Magistrate in Australia, and replace them with Christian men and women like himself, who take their Oath of Allegiance seriously

Peter the Believer wrote:

For the first time in sixty years we have a PM who is not a lawyer. If he is genuine, he will call for the resignation of every Judge and Magistrate in Australia, and replace them with Christian men and women like himself, who take their Oath of Allegiance seriously.

Such an action would be a violation of the Australian Constitution which states:

“116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.”

The Australian Constitution does not mention Christianity, and there are no references to religion in that document except that cited above.

The Constitution specifies that there be no religious test for office, and it is religious bigotry to try to introduce such a requirement.

Sorry, Peter the Believer, it is time to stop this silly game that you keep playing with Magna Carta.

>>The Magna Carta incorporates into Statute, the single section of the New Testament represented by Matthew 18 Verses 15-20. Firstly it orders us to keep our word once given unequivocally. (15) Then it orders us if we are angry to take two witnesses and confront the person who has upset us (16) If that does not work, then the next step was to take him to the Ecclesia, translated into English as church. (17) The Clauses 18 and 19 contain the remedy, and Clause 20 says that the Living God Jesus Christ present as the Holy Spirit, will by divine guidance, determine who is right and who is wrong in a Christian court.<<

Here's a translation of Magna Carta.

http://www.bl.uk/treasures/magnacarta/translation/mc_trans.html

Show us, please, where this "incorporation into statute" takes place.

You have referred to it on so many occasions, it has become something of a mantra, and it is well overdue that you explain yourself without this verbal crutch.

Peter the Believer are you trying to divert the topic away from actual Bible discussion? What are you afraid of?

Under PtB's "the NT is correct" thinking we need to get all judges/magistrates to resign replacing them with "good Christian" people. Great plan PtB - but let's test their good Christian qualities first.

We don't want a country run by religious zealots with skeletons in their closets do we? Maybe the Muslim model is more to your liking!

So which laws apply PtB?

Are Pentacostal & Charismatic churches teaching selective Christianity... The God wants Christians to be rich line?

Is it really what the gospels say?

Jesus allegedly said (Matthew 6:24, Luke 16:13, ) "..... You cannot serve God and money..."

Luke 12:33-34 Jesus allegedly says "Sell all your belongings and give them to the poor..."

Do these teachings apply to churches?

How much money do the leaders of churches get paid? Are they trying to serve both, against Jesus' teachings? The money pooring (ha! get it?) into this church is extraordinary - why?

Do churches follow what Jesus allegedly said on praying Matthew 6:6-15 - See how the Pagans pray? When I went Church the prayers were so long people ran the risk of dying during them...lol

And on miracles : All these charismatic churches seem to claim they heal people in God's name.

Let's get practicing Christians (so that lack of faith isn't the excuse if it fails) who have "amputated limbs" to be healed first.

Let it be seen by the media, be assessed by their usual Dr!

Jesus allegedly said Matthew 17:20 "...If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

Is this still going on http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24232365-5006787,00.html in churches? Will the money be returned as Jesus would want?

Is it unChristian to tell lies, give false hope and decieve?

Why aren't they in all our hospitals curing all the sick people?

Would be more in line with Jesus' teachings than rolling in money?