The only person to lead the conservitave party to victory will need to unite the conservitves.For principles never change, United we stand devided we fall. End of story.

Foxy as you know palimpsest was not talking about me, she was defending her self from an insult.
About time we all stopped feeding that poster, it is a method to change the direction of threads.
Hugely funny, come even you must think so palimpsest, that posts like the one above your last refuse to understand Australia does not agree 64% want Rudd 20% Turnbull, shouts at us screams that most think nothing like that poster.
Yesterday Hockey got to his feet in question time asking a question of Swan.
Even I was stunned when Swan swamped his boat, turned the answer back on him, stuttering and stammering he was beaten totally, had just highlighted his party's mistakes.
Turnbull, is the man tell me who else, remember it is not him dividing your party, its eating its self daily.
Months, not years away from our next federal election I here NOW call the result, only a coward would not have a go.
Labor increases its majority, family first has no Senate seats.
Greens have balance of power in upper house.
Odds against a Liberal victory? you tell me palimpsest, about the same as the clerk of the course winning this years Melbourne cup.

Belly,
Your lack of political understanding is your problem.
palimpsest, Made a decent comment and you have attacked her personally. That’s not a good advertisement and it’s certainly not how a gentleman responds. Palimpest was in response very polite despite of it. I enjoyed her post and was impressed by her insight.
As far as Heson`s story is concerned I didn’t know much of him. Not as much as others anyway.
Based on that story I see a very catty jealous nasty man. Someone who clearly holds a grudge against Costello.
It’s not often we see men coming back from the past to take such a personal swipe for no good reason. That’s pretty common among women but not so much males normally.

Costello isn’t hated by many members of the public. Especially the business people. Sure we all bitched about higher taxes but people had some confidence to invest.

I have already posted my personal disapproval for Costello’s shifty moves. One of those moves included to threaten the RSPCA with loss of tax deductions if they protested about live exports close to a elections Now that’s as ,low as you can go on one hand.
On another hand it was a pretty crafty move if short on morals.
Still only a fool would not admit we could really use his crafty experience and may I say sooner than later. Hopefully by which time we can change his policy’s I add. I wouldn’t mind him as PM. What I would really like would be Rudd and Costello working together and shake off the dead wood of many Ministers on both sides.
Much like john Howard Dear God I didn’t like him but I would welcome him back tomorrow. We are in big trouble in the next four years and Rudds done nothing but play Santa since he arrived.
God help this country

It is far far better that I do not respond.
I time and again have promised myself not to do so.
I understand no rational person, none, could take anything PALEIF posts seriously.
And that most who post here to some degree share my views, that in turning my back, ignoring the provocations, I serve OLO.
Or do I? yes I have read the new PALE thread hidden in there, surely it is so? is a comment saying a new poster is in fact Nicky?
Others have been charged by PALE to be sock puppets or two different people, so very often, without evidence
Threads of interest die, because PALE comes to them to turn the thread to her ends, snipping at posters, or re tracking them to animal welfare.
Yes I should say nothing stay away, but being silent is sometimes the cowards way.
I am not trying to start another car park debate, it however may be a good idea, but OLO should be able to debate politics, the thread was of interest few may bother now.
I am reminded of the frankness of Nicky and C J Morgan in dealing with PALE and ask what is the answer? how do I end debate with PALE?
I did not enter that new thread, wanted to question the boiling live chooks thing, the throwing them in the fire, the naming of a poster as Nicky, but for a while, until this thread was sentenced to death by PALE,I was in control of my thoughts.

Costello isn’t hated. Especially in the business world. He gives people confidence. Hes placed the second best accountant in the world.

Richie 10,

*Hit the nail on the head the only person to lead the conservative *party to victory will need to unite the conservatives
For principles never change, United we stand divided we fall. End of story.*

That’s right Richie 10, and Costello’s the one to do that.

Belly we are just as entitled to make comments as anybody. Your`s are in fact an attack and flaming. We don’t want to hear union talk on each thread either. If you want to discuss animal topics then go to the correct thread pls.

We are like others interested in who is and isn’t going to stand. Its very encouraging to see many posters able to think "for themselves." It gives one strength and courage to trudge on. So thanks to those good people whichever team ou prefer.

Some of us really enjoy debating 'many' topics. I happen to be one. Most weeks I speak / deal with different Ministers offices in one form or another.
We can say way back in history Costello spoke out not long after our letter to him asking him to step up- 'despite' his miserable performance on another issue (which we pointed out to him at the time.)
Of course we would like to think it made a difference.

Having done a fair bit with Costello’s office we agree with those on this thread that said he is feared by the Government.

I have no idea if he intends to come back.

Part of me hopes so and a bit part dreads it. I will try to post some Costello stories in the next few days. He’s a very tough opponent. Strange man good sense of humour, soft underneath. With a mind like steal.
I think he’s been misunderstood as a person but he’s a savage opponent who thinks ahead on hows he’s going to block you.

He doesn’t wait for others to make their move.

It’s like the guys a mind reader.

Dear palimpsest,

My comment was not directed at Belly as you
well know, and my dear, it was ungracious of
you to suggest otherwise.

You asked in your opening post
"Does this qualify as a troll posting?"
And it was to that question that I 'graciously'
responded with my tongue-in-cheek reply.

I'm sorry the subtlety was lost on you.

Back to the topic of this thread...

It seems there are a wide spread of opinions on
Costello:

1) John Hewson has told Costello to move on.
2) Polls have shown Costello to be "unelectable."
3) Senator Minchin says Costello has the right to
serve as a backbencher and "people ought to leave
him alone."
4) Most Libs. now expect Costello will re-nominate
for another term in his Higgins seat.
5) Backbencher Wilson Tuckey says Costello, "...has
every right to chart his own course."
6) Joe Hockey compared Costello's future, "With
Prince Charles' waiting to become king of England."

In the meantime the Opposition, rather unsettled
after its bad week, was trying to re-group, although
the new shadow treasurer Joe Hockey in his
ABC 'Insiders,' interview didn't do too well when he
fluffed his words referring," to the size of the
42 thousand, er million dollar, billion dollar,
the 42 billion dollar er, stimulus packange."

Perhaps Belly is right when he stated in his
opening post that Turnbull is the man to lead the
Liberal Party in the next election. And also that
the Liberal Party should listen to what its 'elders'
like Hewson, have to say about Costello.

Although party politics has
been, and continues to be, a battleground of factions
where friends are rewarded and enemies punished.
We'll have to wait and see what develops ...