LOL! Yabby! my mouth is shut! 19th century thinking will be the end of everything. Easytimes. You need to slow down a bit and use post revision before your tongue gets rapped around your ankles and you have nasty fall.

I welcome all raw thoughts, because without them, we just all go round in circles.

Gezz! Now Ive lost my train of thought!

Back to you Yabby.

EVO

Yabby,"So I see humans for what they are"
If realy you see the humans what they are then you know what they was.
You know the big steps on sciences and technologies on lasts years, you know the law of gravity but we send humans onto the moon, you know the high risks from the fires but its discuvery was a huge step forward, you know the overpopulation but you know the tablets and other ways, you know the evolution but you know the progress on genetic engineering, our ability to speed up the evolution process in laboratories, already we started to clean the human DNA from the bad, the crazy genes, WE ARE ONLY AT THE VERY BEGIN.
Yabby, as there are political, economic and religious conservatives and neoconservatives there are environmental conservatives and neoconservatives too. You and other like you are environmental new-conservatives.
You know Galilaio story, no one can stop the development, the improvment of sciences and technologies, no one can stop the improvment and use of genetic engeenering and other technologies to fight against the death.
I understand your worries but trust more human beings, we are more mature and more responsible than you think.
OK! It is imposible to avoid at some stage the creation of frankenstains, or dragons but do not forget that humans will be their creators and humans will destroy them.
EasyTimes, I am with you
EVIVA SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOZY REVOLUTION!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Not only are we getting smarter, we are getting selfish as well. So! no-one wants to die? Well, I for one will move aside when my life force is completed.

That's not being, that I wouldn't like to live forever, but I feel when I go, a new born will take my place and what I have achieved in my life, shall be past on to them.

Only when humans are at a sustainable level of course.

Note! This is not our planet to do with as we like.

If we kill this planet, your living forever is moot.

EVO

*You and other like you are environmental new-conservatives.*

Not at all. I simply have a basic understanding of biology and
evolutionary psychology, with a bit of neuroscience thrown in.

What I also see is the reality that most people act in their
own short term self interest and rationalise it all away, with
every excuse under the sun.

There is an economic theory called "The Tragedy of the Commons"

Once you get your mind around it, you realise what will happen.
Humans will stuff the planet, each acting in their own interest.

Humans are bright enough to invent new and interesting things,
but also too stupid to leave the place as a sustainable
home for future generations. Don't kid yourself, we are
indeed walking, talking apes, with a slightly larger brain
then our cousins.

So best you enjoy every day for what it is. Many are so busy rushing
and achieving, they forget the value of every day as special.

As to the future of this planet, it existed for billions of years
with bacteria, viruses and insects dominating. Mammals have been
a bit of an after thought. Those species can survive, where
mammals don't stand a chance.

No doubt it will go back to that kind of state at some point in
the future.

EVO.
1. Climate change is dangerous for our future but it is not the only one which threaten the life from our planet. In the past, many times the most animals desapperead of cause high or low temperature, of cause earthquokes or volcanos, or from other reasons. We can keep the life in our planet only if we improve the sciences and technology and prepare the live species and first of all the humans for different, hard conditions.
2. The evolution is a good way for improvenments on live species unter normal natural conditions but is is not good enouph for natural disasters, or huge changes in our planet.
It is the sciences and technology wich could help us to stay alive under bad condisions.
3. More we are prepared to live in hard and different condisions more chances we have to stay alive, It is not smart enouph to leave our future in the evolution when we have the abilities to make the neccesary improvemnents on humans in the laboratory.
Any genetic improvement on human beings not only increase our ability to stay alive under hard, different conditions but also it increase our ability to support other live species on our planet.
4. We like it or not, the humans will play the top, the main role for the future of our planet and for the future of the live species on our planet. Instead to worry and block the developemnent of the sciences and technologies it is better to give them top priority, maximum support and freedom of moves for maximum results.
5. Humans are strong enouph to learn and use the natural laws according to their goals and their desires. Until now, we left the victory on the death to the gods, slowly, slowly we realise that we can win the death on this planet and withougt the support from the god. I am sure we will win the death but I do not know when.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

A.Symeonakis.

Your motives seems to be fair but as you may know, absolute power corrupts. This means man has the power to pick and choose who lives and who dies. Does a poor man from africa have the same options as the ones who invented the technologies?

1. Not if, but when the next global disaster happens, making humans stronger or and out live the event, it makes more sense to colonize one of our neighboring planets and then apply your theory.
2. Evolution is a natural path and should not be tampered with and for the very reason that if our technologies fail, the blue prints for all life including our ape cousins are still here, then not all is lost.
I don't mind talking futuristics, but the fact remains, while we wait for that time to come, overpopulation and reckless management of the environment, we may at our currant rate, never see that day.

So wouldn't be wise to keep the natural system going just case.

EVO